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    Pictomancer animations underwhelming

    I've seen other threads with similar feedback; but I am very excited for Pictomancer!
    However, the in-game reveal was underwhelming.
    I'M SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE VFX (visual effects)! (thank you to user Absurdity<3)

    In the cinematic, we see Krile painting with magic; it's gorgeous & hyping up the class- there are sparkles, particles, everything to make this a whimsical caster.

    What we saw in the DT cinematic compared to the Pictomancer in game reveal, almost made it feel like two separate jobs we were shown. It was very underwhelming to me; anyone else feel this way?
    In-game reveal, The paint is very cartoony or paper mache almost- it doesn't have the same prismatic effect we see in the trailer. It does have the paint brush strokes, but lacks the "magic" feel from the cinematic. It's very flat. It looks unfinished- it looks downgraded.

    The in-game VFX feedback: The ice looks like Playstation 1 graphics; not paint nor ice.
    Paint animations are very flat & lackluster- hardly anything remotely close to what we saw in the Dawn Trail reveal.

    I think really, the in-game VFX need to reflect more of what we saw in the DT cinematic. Painted butterflies, particles & light-magic painting. Do we paint our own Spriggan out of air like Krile?
    Krile uses pastels, they all glow- I just hope what was revealed isn't the final product.


    Screen of Krile, holding paint brush and the paint on the brush is glowing.


    Pretty VFX from Pictomancer in cinematic


    You can see the brush strokes and the paint effects as well as particles, it looks magical




    Screen of in-game Pictomancer, lacking the same appealing visuals (VFX) from trailer.





    ICE- (?) It doesn't really look like ice, or magic or paint
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    Last edited by HeyMcFly; 03-30-2024 at 05:12 AM. Reason: clarification

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    I agree with the point that the cinematic version looks complete different then the in game. But i disagree that the ingame version looks bad. It is different, but not bad.

    And if you truly believe that this is PS1 graphics, then i would recomend to start your PS1 and look at the graphics. You will find out that die pictomancer graphics are way better. Event the PS2 graphics are way worse than the pictomancer. If you had said that they look like PS3 graphics, then i could not say if it is true or not, since i don't had a PS3. But PS1 and PS2 graphics are way worse then the pictomancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asdif_Laoeg View Post
    I agree with the point that the cinematic version looks complete different then the in game. But i disagree that the ingame version looks bad. It is different, but not bad.

    And if you truly believe that this is PS1 graphics, then i would recomend to start your PS1 and look at the graphics. You will find out that die pictomancer graphics are way better. Event the PS2 graphics are way worse than the pictomancer. If you had said that they look like PS3 graphics, then i could not say if it is true or not, since i don't had a PS3. But PS1 and PS2 graphics are way worse then the pictomancer.
    The Ice block animation that reminded me of ps1 graphics- it doesn't resemble paint (I'm an artist, I would know)
    - you can recommend things all day, but it doesn't change how low-rez the ice block looks.
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    As a future pictomancer main. I welcome the pictomancer graphics change. It’s new and fresh and not the same thing we’ve seen with all jobs. This will definitely brighten my eyes and keep my eyes open. I love how whimsical it is. As an artist in my real life I find this job very appealing and cutesy.
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    I think the in-game effects look bad, but my main issue is how they are completely incongruous with the general art style of every single other job. Whimsical cutesy creatures, flowers and butterflies are completely fine. But what we saw in the trailer looks like something out of Splatoon. It looks jarring and the ice crystal looked weirdly low-res.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    I think the in-game effects look bad, but my main issue is how they are completely incongruous with the general art style of every single other job. Whimsical cutesy creatures, flowers and butterflies are completely fine. But what we saw in the trailer looks like something out of Splatoon. It looks jarring and the ice crystal looked weirdly low-res.
    Even with Splatoon, the paint had particle effects & was glittery- it had some texture to it so it looked like paint for the most part
    with Pictomancer, it's very flat & you're absolutely right, it stands out but because it looks so detached from the rest of the game & while that can be a good thing, it's quite lackluster when it comes to Pictomancer

    (image of splatoon paint, sorry for the low res) but it shows the glitter
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyMcFly View Post
    Even with Splatoon, the paint had particle effects & was glittery- it had some texture to it so it looked like paint for the most part
    with Pictomancer, it's very flat & you're absolutely right, it stands out but because it looks so detached from the rest of the game & while that can be a good thing, it's quite lackluster when it comes to Pictomancer

    (image of splatoon paint, sorry for the low res) but it shows the glitter
    And the Side Order expansion for Splatoon 3 upped the style even more. The paint has cool texture, particle effects, and even cool patterns in it for the rogue-lite tower.
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    Pictomancer animations underwhelming

    this new job is still a work in progress wait till it goes live and try it out before you condemn it
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    Quote Originally Posted by george357 View Post
    this new job is still a work in progress wait till it goes live and try it out before you condemn it
    It's better to be the squeaky wheel and say something just incase!
    I'd much rather have tried and find out I was just over thinking an issue and everything turned out good regardless.
    - rather than sitting and hoping things turn out well and being disappointed because noone was concerned enough or they listened to those saying "it's too early to tell, just wait!"

    TL;DR
    It's always a good choice to bring it to others attention instead of sitting back, waiting for someone else to do so and nothing being done
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    splatoon animations are not very appealing

    in all honesty picto should have been the limited job, its not just the animations that feel off but there multiple things that just kinda throw off the vibe of the game.

    1: the fact kriel couldnt have been the sch now that alphinuad is sge. to me itd make sense not only is she a plainsfolk but also an academic

    2: im gonna assume they'll tie its lore with toral just like viper (im not gonna opine on this yet)

    3: gameplay they've already said its not gonna be able to rez, as well as not do damage like blm (for obvious reasons) so unless they plan on making like the vid (posted below) i dont see where this job fits in the caster line up, granted im not caster main so maybe it'll find its home in pvp or just the casual space which isnt an issue i guess

    4: ironically having it as a non limited job seems like it'll limit the creativity of what the job could have been capable of, hell they could have even tied the sight seeing aspect of the game to the job

    all in all i'll have to wait & see but the 1st impression i got isnt something i'm excited for

    https://youtu.be/KiA-ipPAlgI?si=hQlhVJC4cD4y6DpH
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    Last edited by RyanCousland; 03-24-2024 at 07:19 PM.

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