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  1. #41
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    Because they simply don't know how to. I'm a horrible ninja but even ik that unless your maintaining suiton u allways wanna use raitons
    Raiton is actually your filler. Consideration can be given to Fuma if finishing off an enemy before a double mudra can be performed, or the boss is going to enter a transition that will expire Raiju Ready such as Barbariccia or Proto Carbuncle's.

    All other jutsu are entirely situational and there are several.

    For AoE situations Katon is your go-to. Doton requires at least five ticks to beat out Katon, so if at least one enemy will survive that long, then Doton should be applied and should be your first jutsu cast unless TCJ has it covered.

    Suiton is for 2min and 1min burst windows, and Hyoton is only used under Kassatsu, which also falls under the burst windows.

    I tried to explain this to a friend of mine and his response was, "I'm just going to play Ninja Storm."

    I also suggested that Huton should come with a small AoE nuke instead of having the ultra lame Hurajin. Oh well. :/

    Edit: Man, my Doton math was way off. I'm surprised no one called out my BS, lol. Ah, well. I fixed it.
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    Last edited by Gemina; 03-06-2024 at 05:18 AM.

  2. #42
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    gumas's Avatar
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    Rawon Special
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    i think i did see some ninja doing their mudra in my run sometimes

    i turn off all my effect so i didnt see the thunder or fire mudra effect but sometime i do see the handsign standing animation on some of my run
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  3. #43
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    Olyvar Queen
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Considering how many Dotons I see put on bosses, Ninjas are definitely using mudras in my experience. They're just not using them wisely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritsuka-55 View Post
    NIN are like MNK, you see one once every full moon or so.

    They are garbage outdated classes, so barely no one plays them
    How are they garbage and outdated? Because they require slightly more skill than faceroll RPR?
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  5. #45
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    Hazakura Sashihai
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    Seraph
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ritsuka-55 View Post
    NIN are like MNK, you see one once every full moon or so.

    They are garbage outdated classes, so barely no one plays them
    No half the community is braindead and refuses to actually learn it xD
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  6. #46
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Zodiark
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    Archer Lv 100
    Sub-optimal gameplay. In my mmorpg?!
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  7. #47
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burmecia View Post
    Sub-optimal gameplay. In my mmorpg?!
    Sub-optimal would be just using them on cooldown or using them on the wrong abilities. (like single target Doton, which often stems from the wrong assumption that DoT effects tick every second, most likely learned in other mmos.)

    Not using them at all is just ignoring a main feature of your job and expecting other people to carry you because you can't be bothered.
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  8. #48
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    Beleg Erkhten
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    I see Ninjas using Mudras all the time, they just tend to use them wrong, like Doton on a single target (please do not do this)
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    That just leaves Hyoton, which I have no good reminder for.
    "Only ever use this under Kassatsu"
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  10. #50
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    Sub-optimal would be just using them on cooldown or using them on the wrong abilities. (like single target Doton, which often stems from the wrong assumption that DoT effects tick every second, most likely learned in other mmos.)

    Not using them at all is just ignoring a main feature of your job and expecting other people to carry you because you can't be bothered.
    Motives for bad play can be just are varied. Ignorance, laziness, some other nebulous reason.
    If someone wants to make spectrum out of bad gameplay, then I say go for it.
    But for now, for whatever reason mudras arent used, I'm going to call not using mudras sub-optimal gameplay.
    Because surely it it below optimal to not use mudras.
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