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    Player
    Rongway's Avatar
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    The mudras require more memorization than most jobs to remember which combination does what
    This is mostly because the order the game puts them on your bars is wrong. The game encourages you to put them on your bar in the order heaven-earth-man. If you put them in the order earth-man-heaven (Chi Jin Ten) most of them make a lot more sense.
    • Huton: earth man heaven - energy flowing from the lowest point, through the caster, into the air
    • Doton: heaven man earth - energy is flowing down through the caster into the earth
    • Raiton: heaven earth or man earth - lightning strikes downward
    • Katon: earth heaven or man heaven - flames rise.
    • Suiton: (earth heaven) or (heaven earth) then man: gathering energy from all around and taking it in. This jutsu buffs you so you can use Trick Attack.

    That just leaves Hyoton, which I have no good reminder for.
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    sindriiisgaming's Avatar
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    Sugar And'spice
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    Twintania
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    This is mostly because the order the game puts them on your bars is wrong. The game encourages you to put them on your bar in the order heaven-earth-man. If you put them in the order earth-man-heaven (Chi Jin Ten) most of them make a lot more sense.
    • Huton: earth man heaven - energy flowing from the lowest point, through the caster, into the air
    • Doton: heaven man earth - energy is flowing down through the caster into the earth
    • Raiton: heaven earth or man earth - lightning strikes downward
    • Katon: earth heaven or man heaven - flames rise.
    • Suiton: (earth heaven) or (heaven earth) then man: gathering energy from all around and taking it in. This jutsu buffs you so you can use Trick Attack.

    That just leaves Hyoton, which I have no good reminder for.
    This really doesn't simply them lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    BelegErkhten's Avatar
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    Beleg Erkhten
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    That just leaves Hyoton, which I have no good reminder for.
    "Only ever use this under Kassatsu"
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    O'ssu Mecia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I mostly see NINs not doing consecutive Trick Attacks for some reason

    Game needs actual job tutorials
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    The whole Doton thing on a single target is probably just because for a lot of the game's history, it was at minimum as good as Raiton and potentially better by 1 tick, if the boss would last long enough and stand still to get hit by all the ticks. So a lot of returning players or people picking up Ninja again after years would not necessarily know it changed at first.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mecia View Post
    I mostly see NINs not doing consecutive Trick Attacks for some reason
    I mean nobody is going to coordinate in a PUG usually (also it's Mug now ).
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    Player Fourbestintoner's Avatar
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    Melodiane Valerian
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    Masamune
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    Black Mage Lv 42
    Don't worry DT will remove them.
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    strawberrycake's Avatar
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    Hazakura Sashihai
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    Seraph
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Ninja wasn;t hard before and and is even more easy now, if people aren't using mudras then I blame the lack of proper class and job based tutorials.
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    sindriiisgaming's Avatar
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    Sugar And'spice
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    Because they simply don't know how to. I'm a horrible ninja but even ik that unless your maintaining suiton u allways wanna use raitons
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    Because they simply don't know how to. I'm a horrible ninja but even ik that unless your maintaining suiton u allways wanna use raitons
    Raiton is actually your filler. Consideration can be given to Fuma if finishing off an enemy before a double mudra can be performed, or the boss is going to enter a transition that will expire Raiju Ready such as Barbariccia or Proto Carbuncle's.

    All other jutsu are entirely situational and there are several.

    For AoE situations Katon is your go-to. Doton requires at least five ticks to beat out Katon, so if at least one enemy will survive that long, then Doton should be applied and should be your first jutsu cast unless TCJ has it covered.

    Suiton is for 2min and 1min burst windows, and Hyoton is only used under Kassatsu, which also falls under the burst windows.

    I tried to explain this to a friend of mine and his response was, "I'm just going to play Ninja Storm."

    I also suggested that Huton should come with a small AoE nuke instead of having the ultra lame Hurajin. Oh well. :/

    Edit: Man, my Doton math was way off. I'm surprised no one called out my BS, lol. Ah, well. I fixed it.
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    Last edited by Gemina; 03-06-2024 at 05:18 AM.

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    Jumpshot Tryhard
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Tried It once in pve, then l went back to summoner.
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