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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Espon View Post
    What I do see too much of is Doton on single-target bosses.
    That's because it used to be slightly better to use it on a single target (I think by a single DoT tick). It seems that SE fixed that oversight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    i was confused what my tank stance did i kept spamming it off and on like a random cooldown
    I've seen tanks do that occasionally. Rare, but amongst my thousands of dungeon runs, I've seen it multiple times.
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I've seen tanks do that occasionally. Rare, but amongst my thousands of dungeon runs, I've seen it multiple times.
    I think this is because tank stances are pretty confusing, most people aren't going to know what enmity means, but yeah I've seen it a couple of times myself... But i've seen things like level 90 Gladitors so I'm used to seeing wild things in ff14.
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    maybe they can't use magic attacks due to lore reasons....
    Yeah some people just miss core class features, to me a ninja not using mudras is pretty much the same complaint as healers not using damage (which i see so often) or a tank not using mitigations.

    I think when I was a sprout my first dungeon (the first ARR one) i was confused what my tank stance did i kept spamming it off and on like a random cooldown, I think i thought it increased healing or something? I was very confused to say the least. I did provoke the bosses at least...

    Somepeople are learning which is fine, I'd find it concerning if a ninja wasn't using murda's at 90 dungeons or later ones though. Although i don't think id say anything just incase because y'know its ff14 lol.
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 83
    I see them using mudras all the time. I saw people dumping doton on single targets so much that I made my search info a PSA telling people not to do that.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    As an avid casual NIN enjoyer, it comes down to muscle memory & proper hotbar setup. I set my Ninjutsu, Ten, Chi, & Jin hotkeys side by side and imagine them as "1 2 3 4". After that I memorize the mudras order as the following:

    2 3 1 = Raiton
    3 2 1 = Katon
    2 4 1 = Hyoton
    2 3 4 1 = Suiton
    2 4 3 1 = Doton
    4 3 2 1 = Huton

    Once you remember, you'll never fail any inputs anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    [...]I see them using mudras all the time. I saw people dumping doton on single targets so much that I made my search info a PSA telling people not to do that.
    I made a term for these ninjas when talking with my friendos in VC: STD Ninjas (Single-target Dotons).
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    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    As an avid casual NIN enjoyer, it comes down to muscle memory & proper hotbar setup. I set my Ninjutsu, Ten, Chi, & Jin hotkeys side by side and imagine them as "1 2 3 4". After that I memorize the mudras order as the following:

    2 3 1 = Raiton
    3 2 1 = Katon
    2 4 1 = Hyoton
    2 3 4 1 = Suiton
    2 4 3 1 = Doton
    4 3 2 1 = Huton

    Once you remember, you'll never fail any inputs anymore.



    I made a term for these ninjas when talking with my friends in VC: STD Ninjas (Single-target Dotons).
    Exactly!

    What's so hard about hitting numbers in sequence? I play Ninja once in a blue moon and even I know to use my mudras. Hell, I almost have my hotbar setup like that except my Ten, Chi, & Jin keys are after the main combo.

    Hell, worse comes to worse, just macro the thing(s) so you aren't missing out on your job's core identifying mechanic. /joke
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    Last edited by Kacho_Nacho; 03-05-2024 at 07:26 AM.

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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post
    Do they need to be explained better to the users that don't really use them?
    There are two unskippable NIN quests whose literal sole purpose is to teach you to use ninjutsu.
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    Zira Zira
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    Jenova
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    They could do a better job at explaining how dots potency is calculated, then people might stop doing single target dotons
    Also a complete NIN leveling rework, the way the kit is assembled is absolute garbage.
    You go from 1-2-3 spam for the first 40 levels and suddenly boom like 5 Mudras (including one that is completely useless until like 30 more levels) and trick attack suddenly usable in the span of a few levels.
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    Last edited by ZiraZ; 03-03-2024 at 05:49 PM.

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    Princess Walk
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    In all my 12+ years playing XIV I've never seen a Lv40+ NIN that doesn't use their Mudras.

    I do see them using single target doton a lot however. Which is annoying enough.
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    Ritsuka-55's Avatar
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    Celes Vartinault
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    Sagittarius
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    NIN are like MNK, you see one once every full moon or so.

    They are garbage outdated classes, so barely no one plays them
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