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  1. #1
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    PercibelTheren's Avatar
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    Queue in Duty Finder as multiple jobs/roles?

    I've always found it kinda silly that when you queue for things through Duty Finder, you have to stick to the exact job you signed up as. I would love if it didn't matter. Queued in as WHM but you're currently on SGE? How does that make a difference outside high-end content which you want to do through PF anyway?

    I would also love to be able to sign up for duty as multiple roles. Rift had this and it was amazing. You just ticked whichever roles (DPS/tank/healer) you were willing to go as and the game just told you which role you were supposed to fill once you got into the dungeon. It made waiting for the queue to pop much faster and more painless. It would be perfect for people who aren't looking to level anything in particular, they just want to get their dailies over with.

    If we're afraid of people trolling, just lock them out of switching jobs outside of the role the system picked them to be in that particular duty or something.

    Would this be technically possible and, if so, would you like it? Or am I just weird?
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    TabrisOmbrelame's Avatar
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    Relnoria Thelysea
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    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    I've always found it kinda silly that when you queue for things through Duty Finder, you have to stick to the exact job you signed up as. I would love if it didn't matter. Queued in as WHM but you're currently on SGE? How does that make a difference outside high-end content which you want to do through PF anyway?

    I would also love to be able to sign up for duty as multiple roles. Rift had this and it was amazing. You just ticked whichever roles (DPS/tank/healer) you were willing to go as and the game just told you which role you were supposed to fill once you got into the dungeon. It made waiting for the queue to pop much faster and more painless. It would be perfect for people who aren't looking to level anything in particular, they just want to get their dailies over with.

    If we're afraid of people trolling, just lock them out of switching jobs outside of the role the system picked them to be in that particular duty or something.

    Would this be technically possible and, if so, would you like it? Or am I just weird?
    To be honest, allowing people to select multiple jobs before queuing could actually reduce the waiting time for a whole bunch of people. Of course, we will still have the Tank/Healer Privilege, but when you have two people that will tag as healer and you have no Tank, that may force one of them to actually go as a tank (And the opposite is also true).

    Sadly, the actual difference between the number of Tank/Healer against DPS is so high cause we have 4 Tanks, 4 Healers and 11 DPS (excluding Blue Mage) that playing as a Tank or a Healer will always grant you faster Queue (Maybe not for Alliance raid because of the number of DPS required).

    For the technical possibility of it, I think it would be possible to select what you want to play. For exemple, even if you have all the healers, you may not want to play Scholar because you only leveled the class but you don't like it (For the exemple of course). So, you will have the same choice as when you build your PF : Either selecting one or more class you want to play with (Let's say WHM/SMN/DNC), or select one or more role at once (for DPS you can also choose Melee, Caster and/or Ranged specificaly).

    WoW actually has this, where you can just say I want to tag as a Healer or DPS, and when you enter the dungeon you can always respec and restuff to your role inside the dungeon. Of course on Final Fantasy, this is not an option, so you'll have to change your class before accepting to enter the dungeon when the duty proc.
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    I was thinking about something simple like a 'flex' role alot where you customize your favored tank/healer/dps and queue as a fill role. Example PLD/SCH/BRD or --/SCH/BRD etc...I think it'd keep things interesting for those queueing for it while also helping queues move along rather than locking someone into one role.

    I don't think Melee/Caster/Ranged might be an option though? I doubt the game always tries to pick an ideal comp/mix of ranged/caster/melee, but if it does I think that option would be interesting.
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    I don't think it's a bad idea but I do see how hard it can get but what they can do is give a special role to be able to join as what needed meaning that if you get a dungeon or something else and you que as DPS that the give a option to be able to change for the needed if need tank you can pick one of the tank or if healer pick one of the healer. I don't know if it make sense at all but I am trying haha
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    great idea. would love that
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    Aergrael Iyrnrael
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    Quote Originally Posted by TabrisOmbrelame View Post
    Sadly, the actual difference between the number of Tank/Healer against DPS is so high cause we have 4 Tanks, 4 Healers and 11 DPS (excluding Blue Mage) that playing as a Tank or a Healer will always grant you faster Queue (Maybe not for Alliance raid because of the number of DPS required).
    The problem with most roulettes is because people use them most of the time for leveling. This is why DPS is overrepresented.

    But why not take the pvp benefit into that? Queue as dps and tank, what if the dps still can get the roulette xp bonus if tank was max lvl?
    Yes, it mean that some people will effectively never truly play the job, but this already does happen in pvp anyway. Its a problem we can just ignore here since nothing realy changes. Once people have settled for certain jobs its rare that they will deviate from that towards others. And if they do, its because of other benefits (rewards) they get out of it.
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    Athaliel Klaus
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    The fact that we cannot tag a dungeon with different roles is a shame. It proves the lack of knowledge and experience of the developers of this game.
    Having this possibility has only advantages and would allow us - players - to save a lot of time.

    I really hope they will implement soon.
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    Samuel Wolcott
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    Could see this being partially effective, of you're doing your roulettes as a DPS but you're down to play multiple, you could select from a variety of different DPS jobs and see what one you get.

    However, don't see this being effective at all for roles if you select tank, healer, and DPS, you are never ever going to get DPS due to how in demand healers and tanks are.

    Still though, I think it'd be a good addition, sometimes I can't make up my mind about what DPS I wanna queue as, I know there'd be others who would be like that too.
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