Discuss : is ffxiv in trouble

[Leifei]

From my anecdotal evidence, I think that the game is fine as far longevity. I say this because there's still a queue whenever I login, no matter the time. I remember there not being a queue before Endwalker was released. Also, we have Xbox players joining the fray.

[SieyaM]

To honestly discuss the topic I will say that we have been doing a lot of the same things for a long time, and without something changing or bringing a renewed energy to the game it will probably experience slow decline. That isn't really that unusual for the MMO space though, no one remains on top forever and XIV isn't any different. I doubt it will actually shut down any time soon, but will probably end up in the same state as XI in a few more expansions with a small but dedicated community keeping it aloft.

[strawberrycake]

To honestly discuss the topic I will say that we have been doing a lot of the same things for a long time, and without something changing or bringing a renewed energy to the game it will probably experience slow decline. That isn't really that unusual for the MMO space though, no one remains on top forever and XIV isn't any different. I doubt it will actually shut down any time soon, but will probably end up in the same state as XI in a few more expansions with a small but dedicated community keeping it aloft.

I also can't help but feel that, that's what SE will most likely do, this game can certainly last for another 10 years like Yoshida wants. But in what state is another question. Because the formula works, but the people who bring life to it with new ways of viewing it and approaching things will def not be here as often if at all if we have 2 more expansions like this.

[Striker44]

To honestly discuss the topic I will say that we have been doing a lot of the same things for a long time, and without something changing or bringing a renewed energy to the game it will probably experience slow decline. That isn't really that unusual for the MMO space though, no one remains on top forever and XIV isn't any different. I doubt it will actually shut down any time soon, but will probably end up in the same state as XI in a few more expansions with a small but dedicated community keeping it aloft.

When you consider time-scales, "a few more expansions" can mean something like 6+ years away, which is a huge amount of time.

I say this because there's still a queue whenever I login, no matter the time. I remember there not being a queue before Endwalker was released. Also, we have Xbox players joining the fray.

The login queue is a result of the login server now processing logins in "batches" rather than continuously. It's not an actual reflection of the state of the game. That said, the game clearly has an extremely healthy population at the moment, given things like Aether hunt trains going back to server-specific instead of being announced DC-wide with the latest patch because of how large they were getting.

[Equitable_Remedy]

is ffxiv in trouble

No.

To elaborate: no.

[SieyaM]

When you consider time-scales, "a few more expansions" can mean something like 6+ years away, which is a huge amount of time.

Yes, that would be why it is a slow decline. I don't think XIV is going to even consider ceasing content creation for a number of years, and even then it will probably continue with events and maybe some new things here and there but not an expansion. This game could go on for another 10 or so years before it settles into a state like XI, but those years could see a slow but steady decline in active players.

[Shakiness5972]

I see many more players in my server EU in big cities, many parties and events even more now. It's so hard to tell, but I think Dawntrail is going to be a chill expansion, many people going to like it.. I think maybe this time around they going to fix many systems inside the game, who knows...

[Haru304]

<looks at WoW>

Nope. If WoW can still support a lively community in its current state, then FFXIV will go for a lot longer yet. Servers might come and go in terms of general population but there's enough community support to keep this up and runnining more or less indefinetly.

Might come a time when it adopts a different payment method or drops updates and the like.

It's kind of normal to get feelings like this when there's a content lull.

[strawberrycake]

<looks at WoW>

Nope. If WoW can still support a lively community in its current state, then FFXIV will go for a lot longer yet. Servers might come and go in terms of general population but there's enough community support to keep this up and runnining more or less indefinetly.

Might come a time when it adopts a different payment method or drops updates and the like.

It's kind of normal to get feelings like this when there's a content lull.

Developer Alphas and players having a hand in the development of a new expansion? Highest clear rate in recent expansions? Large amount of rewards per patch as well as consistent engagement for players of all skill lvls and play styles? Yeah if WoW Can do it anyone can!

[Absurdity]

Developer Alphas and players having a hand in the development of a new expansion? Highest clear rate in recent expansions? Large amount of rewards per patch as well as consistent engagement for players of all skill lvls and play styles? Yeah if WoW Can do it anyone can!

Also still being the biggest mmorpg out there...