Discuss : is ffxiv in trouble

[Tint]

The whole community part will keep this game alive. Good looking characters / races, glamour, emotes, housing, music... You really can live in this game and hang out with your friends. Alone that you can look at each other when you sit around a table. This game feels alive.

Then of course the whole subscription model and no shady pay to win stuff.

Even when the gameplay sucks this game has too much speaking for it.

But - they can't just keep this for granted forever. When someone else comes along and does it better (or nearly as good) but with better gameplay then FF14 could be in trouble. The game could be better. But there is no better option out there.

[Leifei]

From my anecdotal evidence, I think that the game is fine as far longevity. I say this because there's still a queue whenever I login, no matter the time. I remember there not being a queue before Endwalker was released. Also, we have Xbox players joining the fray.

[Haru304]

<looks at WoW>

Nope. If WoW can still support a lively community in its current state, then FFXIV will go for a lot longer yet. Servers might come and go in terms of general population but there's enough community support to keep this up and runnining more or less indefinetly.

Might come a time when it adopts a different payment method or drops updates and the like.

It's kind of normal to get feelings like this when there's a content lull.

[strawberrycake]

<looks at WoW>

Nope. If WoW can still support a lively community in its current state, then FFXIV will go for a lot longer yet. Servers might come and go in terms of general population but there's enough community support to keep this up and runnining more or less indefinetly.

Might come a time when it adopts a different payment method or drops updates and the like.

It's kind of normal to get feelings like this when there's a content lull.

Developer Alphas and players having a hand in the development of a new expansion? Highest clear rate in recent expansions? Large amount of rewards per patch as well as consistent engagement for players of all skill lvls and play styles? Yeah if WoW Can do it anyone can!

[Absurdity]

Developer Alphas and players having a hand in the development of a new expansion? Highest clear rate in recent expansions? Large amount of rewards per patch as well as consistent engagement for players of all skill lvls and play styles? Yeah if WoW Can do it anyone can!

Also still being the biggest mmorpg out there...

[Striker44]

Developer Alphas and players having a hand in the development of a new expansion? Highest clear rate in recent expansions? Large amount of rewards per patch as well as consistent engagement for players of all skill lvls and play styles? Yeah if WoW Can do it anyone can!

Two disastrous expansions in a row resulting in base player population falling to about 1/6 of its former glory? Highest clear rate (based on?) because only the people who do that kind of content are still playing? Recycled events and standard rewards, with the esports crowd overwhelmingly catered to? That seems a much more accurate description of WoW. FFXIV meanwhile is either still on the rise or currently at its apex, certainly not well into its fall...

[strawberrycake]

Two disastrous expansions in a row resulting in base player population falling to about 1/6 of its former glory? Highest clear rate (based on?) because only the people who do that kind of content are still playing? Recycled events and standard rewards, with the esports crowd overwhelmingly catered to? That seems a much more accurate description of WoW. FFXIV meanwhile is either still on the rise or currently at its apex, certainly not well into its fall...

I mean I played the entire expansion and I felt rewarded for my time and money, which is the main point, and while EW was fun when I was doing savage and Ults, can't say much for the rest of the expansion. Your take of it being in it's fall is a personal one, I'm going off of what I've seen people saying about EW as well as my experience and how many people I've seen clearing, raiding, and flourishing in Dragonflight. And while theres detractors in WoW, there I can see if it's because the games bad or if they're bad with no repercussions.

[Jojoya]

I mean I played the entire expansion and I felt rewarded for my time and money, which is the main point, and while EW was fun when I was doing savage and Ults, can't say much for the rest of the expansion. Your take of it being in it's fall is a personal one, I'm going off of what I've seen people saying about EW as well as my experience and how many people I've seen clearing, raiding, and flourishing in Dragonflight. And while theres detractors in WoW, there I can see if it's because the games bad or if they're bad with no repercussions.

It's all personal opinion and subjective.

I know people who hit their limit with Blizzard crap in Shadowlands and quit. They gave FFXIV a try and have been happy. Dragonflight came out, had some positive comments so they went back to WoW. Played 2 months, went "meh" and came back to FFXIV.

While they're both MMORPGs, each has its own appeal. It's up to players to decide which, or both or neither, appeal to them.

Play what makes you happy, not what makes you miserable. I was fairly miserable when I stopped playing WoW because of all the changes they had made. I haven't regretted leaving.

If FFXIV is making anyone feel the way I was feeling when I quit WoW, then my advice is to walk away with no regrets. Your current happiness is what matters.