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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Actually it was. It's easy to think that simply mirroring the character would be a simple option, but when you start to interact with the world and other characters, you run into tons of distracting issues.

    Then again, TP didn't even need to be mirrored in the first place. The hand in which you used the Wii remote made no difference. But whatever~
    It.
    It does, for the bow it does.
    Try firing that damn bow using your offhand, only thing worse is firing an actual bow with your offhand, such awful controls.
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    Ok so people want to start the 'waste of resourses' BS again.

    [Sarcasm]
    Creating more than one race and more than one gender was a waste of resoures. We could have had ARR right now if they had just focused on one race and gender.

    That grass too was a big waste of time. Why couldn't they have released ARR first and then added grass?

    There are too many textures in the game. I feel ARR could have been released faster if they cut down on the amount of textures. Maybe just go ahead and make everything wireframe, so we can play ARR faster
    [/Sarcasm]

    Give it a rest.... Having Left handed option is a good idea and is no more of a waste of recouces than half of the other things theyre putting into the game.
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    As the OP of this thread you have no idea how shocked I was to see this dragged back up from the dark abyss of the forums. xD

    However I think people are getting a little out of hand about this. First stop attacking each other so much, I never started this as a left vs. right thread, I started it cause I knew if I didn't I'd spend the rest of my days going "what would have happend if I had tried?" regretting not having the guts to do it.

    Second, I didn't ask for left handed option cause I'm left handed and want attention I asked for it for roleplay/cutscenes only, if I can't be left handed I'm cool with it and will still play the game, just would have been cool to have the option is all.

    And finaly, the games about to enter beta, do you guys really think this close to release they'ed add something like this? Calm down a little it's pretty much just a fading dream by this point, let it go and move on to fighting about something else, like 3rd set of highlights in our hair or something. XD
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdventZero View Post
    As the OP of this thread you have no idea how shocked I was to see this dragged back up from the dark abyss of the forums. xD

    However I think people are getting a little out of hand about this. First stop attacking each other so much, I never started this as a left vs. right thread, I started it cause I knew if I didn't I'd spend the rest of my days going "what would have happend if I had tried?" regretting not having the guts to do it.

    Second, I didn't ask for left handed option cause I'm left handed and want attention I asked for it for roleplay/cutscenes only, if I can't be left handed I'm cool with it and will still play the game, just would have been cool to have the option is all.

    And finaly, the games about to enter beta, do you guys really think this close to release they'ed add something like this? Calm down a little it's pretty much just a fading dream by this point, let it go and move on to fighting about something else, like 3rd set of highlights in our hair or something. XD
    All the fools natrually assume every suggestion made MUST BE AT LAUNCH and therefore will delay launch. Tho, even if it was something that was put in during beta, making a left-hand option and simply mirroring right-hand animations is probably not a hard thing for them to do.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skies View Post
    It.
    It does, for the bow it does.
    Try firing that damn bow using your offhand, only thing worse is firing an actual bow with your offhand, such awful controls.
    ...I mean, there was no point in changing links hand in Twilight Princess. In either case, the interaction with the bow only amounts to a crosshair. Even if Link was Left handed in the Wii version, using my right hand would make no difference. Just use your dominant hand.


    On the topic of the thread, like I said much earlier:
    Depending on how they set up the FK/IK structure, that may mean they would have to mirror the entire character, possibly including all of the equipment, mounts, crafting tables, and the effects for spells and moves, basically doubling all the assets for characters.
    It might just be better to make whole new animations for left handed characters if it where to be implemented.
    About 10 percent of the earths population is expected to be Left handed. It is simply not worth the effort for something very few people would care enough beyond a "Thanks, that was really thoughtful."
    It's nothing against Left handedness, it's just that it's something you need to keep in mind at the beginning.
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    Ok so people want to start the 'waste of resourses' BS again.

    [Sarcasm]
    Creating more than one race and more than one gender was a waste of resoures. We could have had ARR right now if they had just focused on one race and gender.
    AdventZero, I'd like you to meet my friend, Slippery Slope Fallacy. Slippery slope, meet AdventZero! you two will be best of friends, I can see it now!

    Look, the dev team has a priority list. Certain things are more important than others. Handiness, a very small cosmetic embellishment that a small number of people even care about, is not likely to be high on that priority list. The truth hurts, but that's all there is to it. There are a LOT of things that are more important than this right now.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    AdventZero, I'd like you to meet my friend, Slippery Slope Fallacy. Slippery slope, meet AdventZero! you two will be best of friends, I can see it now!

    Look, the dev team has a priority list. Certain things are more important than others. Handiness, a very small cosmetic embellishment that a small number of people even care about, is not likely to be high on that priority list. The truth hurts, but that's all there is to it. There are a LOT of things that are more important than this right now.
    Like that mark on meteor survivor characters? I don't think i'll be able to play the game if I didn't have that mark! right? Can say the same thing about them adding in Male Mithra, Female Roegadyn, and Female Highlanders. They didn't need to do any of that, but they did. If they didn't add Male Miqo'te, i would just continue playing female miqo'te /shrug must not be all that important to me.... therefore it must have been a waste of their and our time, in my perspective. However, it was important to many many others that they be added.

    The 'importance' of having that mark, extra genders, chocobo raising, insert something else here, is pretty much equal to the 'importance' of having the ability to equip a weapon in the left hand and a shield in the right. Same with a lot of things their adding that will have no impact on the games playability.

    And once again, not one of us can tell anyone else what SE says is or is not something that can be on the 'list of priorities'. Not one of them has their priority list, nor can we alter their priority list.

    IMO saying it is a waste or resorces or there are more important things is an invalid reason to try to be against something.

    And for the record, I am right handed, so this is not a left handed vs right handed kind of thing. I'm for the impimentation of reasonable options for players, and this is a very reasonable option for players.
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  8. #118
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    Boob slider and the physics, just throwing those out. (these are cool ideas btw)
    Seeing something like handedness is quirky and maybe a lot of people will like to have the option, you never know.
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    Network Packets

    Quote Originally Posted by AdventZero View Post
    Just a simple request from a left handed person to the FFXIV dev team that I hope they'll really think about. It's alwase bothered me in games that let you make your own character that I could never pick to us my real main hand in game too, it seems almost unfair really, yes lefty's are rare but that doesn't mean we should be completly ignored just because of that, and with 2.0 getting a new creation system I feel this is my last chance to get to use my blade in my true main hand, my left hand.

    I know that there are better things SE could focus on, but this is a now or never kind of thing, so please give it some thought.


    (Not sure if general discussions is the right place for a request or not, couldn't see anywhere else that looked right).
    I'm sorry if someone has already said this, but I only glanced over the few pages this thread has created, but simply put:

    When FFXIV, FFXI, WoW, Aion, Archlord, Moshi Monsters or whatever send information between your computer and the servers they use 'Packets'. These packets contain the necessary data for the server to do what you expect, this is a number of things:

    Text, Movement, Character Data, Position, Rotation, etc.

    ALL of your characters unique information that is constantly being changed is being sent in these 'packets', so whenever you start adding in more character customization options, armour pieces, etc. the packets become heavier as more data is added, which would in turn create 'lag' as the packets would require more time to transfer between yourself and the servers.

    TLDR

    The more you add, the more strain it puts on the servers creating lag.

    Source:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_packet
    http://searchnetworking.techtarget.c...inition/packet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Like that mark on meteor survivor characters? I don't think i'll be able to play the game if I didn't have that mark! right? Can say the same thing about them adding in Male Mithra, Female Roegadyn, and Female Highlanders. They didn't need to do any of that, but they did. If they didn't add Male Miqo'te, i would just continue playing female miqo'te /shrug must not be all that important to me.... therefore it must have been a waste of their and our time, in my perspective. However, it was important to many many others that they be added.

    The 'importance' of having that mark, extra genders, chocobo raising, insert something else here, is pretty much equal to the 'importance' of having the ability to equip a weapon in the left hand and a shield in the right. Same with a lot of things their adding that will have no impact on the games playability.

    And once again, not one of us can tell anyone else what SE says is or is not something that can be on the 'list of priorities'. Not one of them has their priority list, nor can we alter their priority list.

    IMO saying it is a waste or resorces or there are more important things is an invalid reason to try to be against something.

    And for the record, I am right handed, so this is not a left handed vs right handed kind of thing. I'm for the impimentation of reasonable options for players, and this is a very reasonable option for players.
    To tell you the truth, as long as the launch date is not pushed back to put it into the game, I really don't give a crap if it does exist. But if they would have to delay the launch to put it in, I say NO. Wait for an update. Or expansion. Or whatever.
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