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    Quote Originally Posted by Brignadalee View Post
    I had a look at Mediums since I'm getting close enough to consider getting one. Only to find that a single one has 80 participants. Getting a small is rough enough at my recently failed 20 participants, but it's clear there's still not enough houses to go around. It's not fair, and we really should just make the switch already. This new system isn't it.

    To any who want to jump in and tell me it's not an issue, and to go play other games with better Housing. No you. That is all you will get from me, good day.
    If you are looking for instance housing, honestly, go find other games
    FF14 will stick to Ward system, whether you likes it or not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    If you are looking for instance housing, honestly, go find other games
    FF14 will stick to Ward system, whether you likes it or not
    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaD View Post
    No you.

    Go play any other game with instanced housing, FFXIV has ward housing.

    You're welcome.

    Good day.
    Yes!, those people need to go away as far as possible. Otherwise there might be enough people asking about it and devs might actually listen and implement housing system slightly better then begging RNG for 0.2% chance of getting a house bigger then just a small
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palin View Post
    Yes!, those people need to go away as far as possible. Otherwise there might be enough people asking about it and devs might actually listen and implement housing system slightly better then begging RNG for 0.2% chance of getting a house bigger then just a small
    I see those posts as suggestions to stop wasting one's own time complaining about a game that isn't going to change to one's liking.

    There are apartments for people who just want to store holiday items and don't want to worry about auto-demolition. There are abundant small houses for people who think they are missing out on gardening. The devs just invested into a new district, additional wards and a lottery system for wards during this expansion, providing more M/L houses and a fair way to distribute them. They didn't do that for nothing. Housing works fine and it also keeps people subscribed.

    It's a 10 year old game that had its peak in 2022 and is slowly going to fade out in the next decade. We will get new content but they are not going to tear down and reinvent major game systems. Why would they? Anyone who thinks the game is getting an instanced housing system is full of copium. If that's the only way someone is going to enjoy housing, there are other games out there to try. It doesn't mean one has to unsub from this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    I see those posts as suggestions to stop wasting one's own time complaining about a game that isn't going to change to one's liking.

    There are apartments for people who just want to store holiday items and don't want to worry about auto-demolition. There are abundant small houses for people who think they are missing out on gardening. The devs just invested into a new district, additional wards and a lottery system for wards during this expansion, providing more M/L houses and a fair way to distribute them. They didn't do that for nothing. Housing works fine and it also keeps people subscribed.

    It's a 10 year old game that had its peak in 2022 and is slowly going to fade out in the next decade. We will get new content but they are not going to tear down and reinvent major game systems. Why would they? Anyone who thinks the game is getting an instanced housing system is full of copium. If that's the only way someone is going to enjoy housing, there are other games out there to try. It doesn't mean one has to unsub from this game.
    Wasting people's time posting here seems to be the entire point of these forums. Not like anyone from the devs is reading all that. Anyway it technically exists also for the sake of giving feedback, big or small, so it's here.

    Anyway given how many threads we get for housing each month it is safe to assume that housing is not working as intended. It's a mistake of a system that takes too many resources and not enough for people's demands, and housing should never be implemented this way. Just because they added some band-aid solution until all houses that people actually want run out and we are back to square one. But yes, definitely it’s the fault of these spoiled gamers, who dare dream that if they managed to get 50 mil, they should have slightly higher chance for their wanted house then 0.1%

    And it’s not the first time some systems and game modes got scrapped due to negative feedback and/or devs' decisions. The feast, original diadem, you can even count the entirety of 1.0 getting scraped. Or when they iterate on previous systems, such as Trust and duty support being upgraded and refined squadrons. So why couldn’t housing be improved?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palin View Post
    Wasting people's time posting here seems to be the entire point of these forums. Not like anyone from the devs is reading all that. Anyway it technically exists also for the sake of giving feedback, big or small, so it's here.

    Anyway given how many threads we get for housing each month it is safe to assume that housing is not working as intended. It's a mistake of a system that takes too many resources and not enough for people's demands, and housing should never be implemented this way. Just because they added some band-aid solution until all houses that people actually want run out and we are back to square one. But yes, definitely it’s the fault of these spoiled gamers, who dare dream that if they managed to get 50 mil, they should have slightly higher chance for their wanted house then 0.1%

    And it’s not the first time some systems and game modes got scrapped due to negative feedback and/or devs' decisions. The feast, original diadem, you can even count the entirety of 1.0 getting scraped. Or when they iterate on previous systems, such as Trust and duty support being upgraded and refined squadrons. So why couldn’t housing be improved?
    Because what you deem an improvement is not an improvement for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaD View Post
    Because what you deem an improvement is not an improvement for everyone.
    I have seen instanced housing implemented in other mmo games. It works as intented and people don't make drama fighting over houses. It would be an improvement
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palin View Post
    I have seen instanced housing implemented in other mmo games. It works as intented and people don't make drama fighting over houses. It would be an improvement
    Once again, that's an improvement to certain people, but not for everyone, that's your opinion that it would be an improvement for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palin View Post
    I have seen instanced housing implemented in other mmo games.
    Unless the backend of those "other MMO games" are identical to this one your comparison is completely irrelevant.

    I understand why people are salty about getting a larger house but "jUsT Do InStAnCeD hOuSiNg" is a non-starter.
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    No one's gonna fight over the house but also no one's gonna care. The limitations will likely be friends list only. You're gonna decorate your house, Finish it likely leave and rarely ever come back. Because there's no reason to come back.What the limited degree of people that you can have over and the lack of content within housing. (Island sanctuary) In my opinion, if we really wanted to show the developers that housing was as big of as interest as these forms make it out to be then they would have decorated the outside of the island sanctuar in to show S.E that there is interest here.



    The scarcity is what makes it such a hot commodity, And If you lose your plot for not logging in it might be a very long time before you get another one so you better stay subbed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palin View Post
    Anyway given how many threads we get for housing each month it is safe to assume that housing is not working as intended. It's a mistake of a system that takes too many resources and not enough for people's demands, and housing should never be implemented this way. Just because they added some band-aid solution until all houses that people actually want run out and we are back to square one. But yes, definitely it’s the fault of these spoiled gamers, who dare dream that if they managed to get 50 mil, they should have slightly higher chance for their wanted house then 0.1%
    What part of housing isn't working as intended? We can design the outside walls, decorate, store furnishings, use functional items like bells and gardening plots, teleport there, leave messages and likes, add tags, lock the house or let people enter, change the lighting, and move to a different plot. It's functional in every way. They are working on increasing the item limit for all house sizes next expansion and apparently there is also talk about housing mirage which I understand could be a way to increase the size of the interior.

    The only people complaining are the people on a few overcrowded NA serves and people who want a bigger house. That's it. Neither of those are problems that require an entirely new system to be developed. And the idea I've seen thrown around that the whole housing system should be scrapped, is... I don't even know how best to describe it. Self centered and delusional? That thousands of people around the world should have their houses deleted from the game because some people didn't win a house with more space and got mad. What?
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    Last edited by Reinha; 02-22-2024 at 06:48 AM.

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