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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    Oki Doki, so I am going to imagine this
    • My Keyboard setup now: 123/145/1Q
    • Vs what People want to suggest: 111/111/111
    Mhm mhm, okey Searching for Japanese venue so I can RP Seppuku there...
    Condensed combos on SAM would be 111/222/33, not 111/111/11 as you suggest. The point of it is not to remove the depth of a job, but to remove the bloat.

    Samurai during ST gameplay has 4 choices with its main GCD loop; Gekko combo, Kasha combo, Yukikaze combo, and Iaijutsu. I'm ignoring the burst GCDs here since they're only used a few times every 2 minutes. Why should 4 choices require 7 buttons when 4 does the job without sacrificing any gameplay depth? You yourself have agreed with other options for condensation to facilitate bringing back Kaiten (something I very much agree with you on), so how does condensing the combos dumb the job down? Conversely, would separating Ogi Namikiri and Kaeshi: Namakiri somehow make the job less dumbed down? What about splitting Iaijutsu into 3 separate buttons? Why would condensed combos lead to a worse result compared to say, having Ikishoten transform into Ogi Namikiri?

    About the only thing lost is the possibility of restarting a combo intentionally, which is something so incredibly niche that only a handful of jobs even consider it in the most obscure optimization situations. The only job that would be actively made detrimental from condensed combos would be Monk, as it's the only job that can make meaningful decisions outside the usual combo order, and as such is the only job I don't want to see condensed combos on. If the fear is that more jobs would "be more like healers" because they'd only press 1 button 12 times before pressing something else, then it already plays like a healer and it only has the illusion of being more complex (looking at you DRK).

    More buttons =/= more complex gameplay.
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    Last edited by TheDustyOne; 02-18-2024 at 09:42 PM.