QoL and reducing number of the buttons suggestion

[Deceptus]

I think the easiest and most common sense consolidation should be:

Any skill that is a **direct** requirement for another: Should be the same dynamically changing button.

See: Dragoon High Jump - Mirage Dive

AST: Draw and Play should be the same button,

Which would include the basic 1-2-3 buttons. They do nothing but add bloat. vs a single dynamic button.

[ZiraZ]

I think the easiest and most common sense consolidation should be:

Any skill that is a **direct** requirement for another: Should be the same dynamically changing button.

See: Dragoon High Jump - Mirage Dive

AST: Draw and Play should be the same button,

Which would include the basic 1-2-3 buttons. They do nothing but add bloat. vs a single dynamic button.

You cannot do this to HJ, they tried mid EW and it was then hotfixed (twice I think?) followed by a complete reversion for a VERY good reason, if you want to consolidate skills at least know the consequences associated with it.
You are calling things bloat but don't even know the consequences it brings. HJ and Mirage are NOT bloat there is a very good reason why they are separate buttons.
I don't play enough AST but I also think you would want to be able to redraw not just blindly throw cards without being able to redraw.
Consolidating can be good (see Minor Arcana) but you have to be very sure of what you're doing or it ends up hurting the job.

[ASkellington]

You cannot do this to HJ, they tried mid EW and it was then hotfixed (twice I think?) followed by a complete reversion for a VERY good reason, if you want to consolidate skills at least know the consequences associated with it.
You are calling things bloat but don't even know the consequences it brings. HJ and Mirage are NOT bloat there is a very good reason why they are separate buttons.
I don't play enough AST but I also think you would want to be able to redraw not just blindly throw cards without being able to redraw.
Consolidating can be good (see Minor Arcana) but you have to be very sure of what you're doing or it ends up hurting the job.

Redraw is its own separate button. There's no reason why Draw/Play should be separate.

[CidHeiral]

I love how the first page of this forum currently has threads complaining that the game is too dumbed down and threads asking for the game to be dumbed down. Hats off to the devs that have to make sense of it all.

[CaptainLagbeard]

I love how the first page of this forum currently has threads complaining that the game is too dumbed down and threads asking for the game to be dumbed down. Hats off to the devs that have to make sense of it all.

Going from pressing 1 2 3 to pressing 1 1 1 isn't really dumbing the game down much... And if they do it, they can bring in more skills to the freed up action bar slots that make it more complex. SAM and DRG are probably the two best examples of it, as SAM has 7 buttons to do what could be done with 3 for the single target combos, and they could replace those 4 buttons with new things.Same with DRG which has 7 buttons for it's single target combos that could be done with 2... Opening up room for 5 new skills.

[CidHeiral]

Going from pressing 1 2 3 to pressing 1 1 1 isn't really dumbing the game down much... And if they do it, they can bring in more skills to the freed up action bar slots that make it more complex.

[CelestiCer]

I love how the first page of this forum currently has threads complaining that the game is too dumbed down and threads asking for the game to be dumbed down. Hats off to the devs that have to make sense of it all.

The contrast is uncanny, I see Healer players who wish to do a bit more even a slither... and ironically we have others wanting something like DPS Melee's be more towards what Healer players are complaining about...

I really fail to see the logic as well...

On one hand? players believe Mechanics increases PvE combat complexity, when Square shown* zero intention to do so, unless it's Ultimate... Of which is not for everyone. Players counter-suggest this with Job-Depth as optionality? and get shut-down, or worse? Suggestions to make the homogenized Jobs? that much more simplified.

- Increased Hitboxes
- Melee uptime made a Joke
- Buff and Shielding radius are massive
- Job homogenizations
- The 2-min-meta
- Bosses teleporting to center of arena more
- One button rotation Jobs either GCD or OGCD

And it's not enough apparently. We have players in this thread who aren't max level on certain Jobs and suggest those to be pruned based on Combo filler?... I have a hard time taking that serious as many can't find me serious cause Kaiten ( hehe I shoved that in there )

Whenever I played an MMO and i see a Job I like and the game decides to " streamline it " the gameplay suffers, it becomes stale, shallow, and bland. Many will like it for its comfiness? but it ultimately makes the game-play easier, with the companies promise to improve upon that new empty-gap they made in Jobs... Which they never do. Old features replaced? for the sake of no New once worth mentioning or none at all. Fondness for the game dies, MMO in and MMO out, now I finally end up here and I see it again with XIV... Different game? same thing. Consolidating Bloat is fine, if its sensible... Combo Button compressing as the first solution players can think of, to me is not what improves the game it, just makes it comfier for the sake of comfiness.

" Optimizing how Comfy the game can be shouldn't be the definition of improved gameplay "

[Eraden]

As BLM Mao has lots space left overs on bars for more spells. For now. Mao nots sure if will stay that way when DT comes out and maybe is more spells. Mao will wait and see.

[Raikai]

Honestly, I think that merging 1-2-3 combos is great if the vacant keybinds are used to add stuff that actually interacts with the said combo or other filler actions (as opposed to yet another 120s action).

Of course, this doesn't apply to the jobs that have branching combos because there's decision making over there.

[Supersnow845]

Exactly, 1-2-3 isn’t button bloat, another 1000+ potency oGCD on a 2 minute CD you press in the burst window and fish for crits on is button bloat

I’d rather lose hyosha ranryu than lose NIN’s 1-2-3 for example