QoL and reducing number of the buttons suggestion

[Merrigan]

To be fair I don’t think they read my post to begin with. Just a “make SAM more streamlined” made them PTSD about losing Kaiten, or something.

Or people did read your post, and didn't agree to it ?

[CelestiCer]

Consolidating combos for Gekko, Kasha, Yukikaze, Mangetsu and Oka would have no bearing on what you can do as a Samurai gameplay wise.

Except lets be realistic... Square has never accommodated such a toggle option for players in PvE, which ultimately results in what we assume = Streamlining. MSQ proved that, it's literally Streamlining





Top things a Samurai casts during a P10S run. No shocker - Hissatsu: Shinten Nr1, statistically 1/5 of our Samurai gameplay now. Combo Compression comes pretty close to this mind-numbing gameplay. After simulating a hypothetical rotation of it? I can't believe I hate something more then Shinten Spamming.

Some of the most hardcore raiding Samurai mains quit Samurai purely due to the horrible changes, then homogenizations, then streamlining and then Kaiten removal... (Rip Boxer) Square already is doing a bang-up job on beating the passion out of players who loved their Jobs cause it makes it dumber after we got nothing in return in the past already. The suggestions here scream to me as " lets not stop there " so we can accommodate passionless players to be more lazier then they ever need to be on Jobs they barely even play with or without changes.

Nothing about improvement of Job-Gameplay, purely Optimized comfiness to solve a issue we have better solutions for already that aren't being implemented first and ignored completely as well here.

So I rather disagree to regard this as another streamlining simplification and a subpar Bloat solution suggestion? until I see something return of substance first after we got nothin after 8 simplifications, then I'll consider accepting the idea of a combo compression after they implement the other Bloat solutions first i.e Shoha/ShohaII/Guren/Senei/Iki/Ogi etc merge/fusing. If that sounds reasonable, cause atm its dumb as bricks and that's just Samurai, mhm...

Cause the Cherry on Top? " Zero suggestions is made to give meat on the bone " on a Job I consider pretty bare bones already, and were all here debating how to shave more off of it atm...

[Deceptus]

Cause the Cherry on Top? " Zero suggestions is made to give meat on the bone " on a Job I consider pretty bare bones already, and were all here debating how to shave more off of it atm...

Shaving off useless button presses could be swapped with interesting, engaging ones if a competent job design team were behind the changes.

[kaynide]

Or people did read your post, and didn't agree to it ?

You're saying this temper tanturm of a response:

We should also make Shinten auto cast whenever you have available good boy samurai points, it's just bloat anyways, as demonstrated by Kaiten removal that nobody liked or ever complained about anyways.
And the stickers too, dumb stupid stickers, they should all be the same symbol and color, let the SAM pick his favorite combo animation to spam, I'm just here to spam Gekko 300 times per fight.

is a reasonable or even constructive/debatable response to "abilities that chain into one single other ability shouldn’t need an entirely new button to push."?

If someone disagrees and has points worth debating, then debate it.

I answered my opinion to OP's question. I do not care if you or anyone else agrees or disagrees, and I am happy to hear out and discuss ideas. I am not here entertain people throwing temper tantrums or just responding with 1 word and nothing to talk about.

[ZiraZ]

You're saying this temper tanturm of a response:



is a reasonable or even constructive/debatable response to "abilities that chain into one single other ability shouldn’t need an entirely new button to push."?

If someone disagrees and has points worth debating, then debate it.

I answered my opinion to OP's question. I do not care if you or anyone else agrees or disagrees, and I am happy to hear out and discuss ideas. I am not here entertain people throwing temper tantrums or just responding with 1 word and nothing to talk about.

Do you really think the devs will remove combos and then a miracle golden age of job design will dawn upon XIV with mechanics the likes of which no mmo has ever dreamed of and the game engine will become self aware and upgrade itself to allow for these complex new job mechanics to work?
Keep dreaming the devs will definitely add something to make up for it later, pinky promise by yp™!!!! (maybe 3 expansions later! stay tuned for live letter CCXIII!)
Ultimately you're just gonna get more SMN garbage or halfass reworks like PLD with Goring[insert new name] Blade 1, Goring Blade[insert new name] 2 and don't forget Goring Blade[insert new name] 3.
and you didn't debate anything you just complained about people complaining about your bad suggestion that has been suggested 100 times before and been told its a bad idea 100 more times again.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Do you really think the devs will remove combos and then a miracle golden age of job design will dawn upon XIV with mechanics the likes of which no mmo has ever dreamed of and the game engine will become self aware and upgrade itself to allow for these complex new job mechanics to work?
Keep dreaming the devs will definitely add something to make up for it later, pinky promise by yp™!!!! (maybe 3 expansions later! stay tuned for live letter CCXIII!)
Ultimately you're just gonna get more SMN garbage or halfass reworks like PLD with Goring[insert new name] Blade 1, Goring Blade[insert new name] 2 and don't forget Goring Blade[insert new name] 3.
and you didn't debate anything you just complained about people complaining about your bad suggestion that has been suggested 100 times before and been told its a bad idea 100 more times again.

Regardless how bad their take may be, responding with hyperbole and slippery slope is not the way to go. It is mentally straining having to read through vitriol responses compared to people at least "trying" to entertain your idea and having a discussion. Your "haha lol might as well have autobattler mode for Shinten" response is of that straining kind.

Furthermore, just because the first 100 times people say it is a bad idea does not mean they were actually right - it means they were just as close-minded to the idea as now.

And just like how you say that it is ridiculous to think that SE will immediately replace the opened hotbar slots with new actions, it is also ridiculous to keep denying such suggestions acting as the first rolling stone here. It would stir minds, at very least, if we had it as an option.

[CelestiCer]

...you do it because reaching for Ctrl+9 and alt+5 during burst is super annoying because... ( snip )

No wonder people are having issues... You don't Hotkey...
- Ctrl + Fridgedoor
- Shift + Bed Countertop
- Alt + Toilet Flush button

You Hotkey to things close to you on your keyboard, it's common sense. I am not even reading that you're rerouting this so you're physically trying to reach it? pls tell me you're rerouting...

[CelestiCer]

Example, (for simplicity) Samurai’s core rotation:

" No "

[mallleable]

I think it's fine -- good even, for a job to force a player to engage with it on its terms, and not compromise in the name of logic, convenience or efficiency. If branching combos aren't your thing then they just aren't, it's not the fault of the job or its design.

[Rithy255]

Should be optional either way.