Yet another thread about explicit pf's

[Minali]

While reading this and that other thread I can't help but wonder how many of you people are actually parents or ever had to watch over a much younger child. Can't be many. My parents tried to control my internet hours with a specific router when I was a teen and I managed to disable it and later at least double this period quickly. Eventually my dad wrote the company and they said my parents already did what the system is able to achieve. And both of my parents worked in IT, they knew stuff. This was around 2002ish. I can't even begin to imagine how quick kids can outsmart their parents and their control systems today. If a parent tries to hover over them, they'll just do things in secret or find work arounds around tools and apps and blocks.

Do you know what the lasting effect of this was? I learned I couldn't trust my parents. When I faced disturbing stuff, I didn't tell them. Sometimes I didn't even tell my friends, the friends I found online and eventually met irl. If I would have been in the situation OP's kid was in, I wouldn't have gone to my parents and tell them about what occured. I had an okay relationship with them otherwise but things at school were really bad and I was terrified telling them about anything bad in the internet would make them pull the plug for good, cutting me off from the only people I ever met who were there for me, the only thing that kept me from running away or even harming myself very badly. (I didn't tell them that either, thought they'd blame the internet or games for this as well. Now I know they wouldn't have, but that's what it felt like at the time.)

Y'all are suggesting parents should monitor every discord server, every game, every chat the children have and consider this the bare minimum good parenting, as if this kind of helicopter parenting wouldn't cause a lot of harm (and being super unrealistic besides, considering adults are busy adulting most of the time.) I know OP of the other thread is a good badass parent because they have a daughter that tells them if something happens that feels kind of off. She trusts them she won't be the one to be punished for the online behaviour and events of other people none of the two have any control over. You absolutely can and should educate your child about not sharing their address or the one of their school online, be careful with photos and all. But a parent can hardly predict a game wouldn't be suitable for their child based on user behaviour if no official rating you can see in the store makes it obvious the rating is questionable. Only if they are gamers themselves and know these things in and out. It's on us as a community to accept the rating is what it is and we should have some basic decensy of not pushing 18+ stuff into the faces of random people who might not be of this age. It is on us to keep in mind this game is not solely made for adults only, no matter if the kids might see stuff on Tik Tok as well. This is completely irrelevant for how this is to be handled in this specific game.

[Avoidy]

People report these all the time, but the same guys keep at it forever, literally asking for feet pics and begging for discord daddies and stuff.
Meanwhile, if you or I say something constructive in a dungeon that's perceived in an offensive way, or if someone decides that our username offends them for some reason, we can get a strike on our account. It really makes it seem like the GMs enforce the ToS in wild and unpredictable ways, right?

[ZavosEsperian]

People report these all the time, but the same guys keep at it forever, literally asking for feet pics and begging for discord daddies and stuff.
Meanwhile, if you or I say something constructive in a dungeon that's perceived in an offensive way, or if someone decides that our username offends them for some reason, we can get a strike on our account. It really makes it seem like the GMs enforce the ToS in wild and unpredictable ways, right?

This is part of the problem I have with current moderation is that it appears that one of two things is occurring:
1. The GMs are understaffed and are unable to keep up with the reports.
2. The GMs are staffed correctly but have different priorities when closing reports.

I would hope this is a case of the former, but I can also see where the latter of the two cases is true.

[Burmecia]

age ratings aren't for interactions happening in game, but for the content of the game

not saying onlyfans-or-whatever ads in pf arent mildly /raises_eyebrows worthy. guess this is what happens when mmorpgs become just another social media, and stop being protectorate for sweaty nerds.
and even those earlier ages of sweaty nerds had their own pervy quirks happening. they were just different.

how we get rid of RMT ads? stop buying gil with real money
how we get rid of bunnygirl feetpix service? stop buying bunnygirl feetpix
so simple yet so impossible, because there is always enough people to make it worthwhile

[Nebelheim]

I tend to avoid the other tab in general instead of getting worked up over what people do outside of the game on there discords/onlyfans/twitters that they tend to link in the other tab and don't feel the need to sit and report every listing under it and just ignore it.

[Bitmoar]

Online interactions aren't rated. If they were there wouldn't be an online game out there with less than M. Just report and move on. If it doesn't get taken down, obviously SE doesn't have a problem with it.

[Gordita]

Maybe the GMs are the ones posting these things, and running venues, so they don't ban their friends for being degens violating tos ... Like I reported an explicited shout ad and the gm replied " thank you for report regarding misuse of the party finder" ... I didn't mention party finder anywhere, and copied the shout chat with the time stamp and all in my report. so if they process the report as if it were about the pf instead of a shout then they obviously find no violations, and then take no action. Clearly this was done to protect the dirty ERP shout ads that are def not suitable to be exposing children to. SE really needs to get their priorities in order here , almost feels like I'm logging into phub instead of FFXIV and that's pretty cringe

[WeebPolice]

Yeah for sure. I don't bother with the FFXIV community on twitter. In fact I try to distance myself as much as possible from them.

Based, citizen.

What we need is to start a campaign to have you elected into public office, Lieutenant. Whenever your service obligation with the WPD is up, I'd recommend you delve into Lominsan politics. You are more than capable of acting in the position of an elected official and you'd make the WPD proud.

That is true, citizen. I would have to qualify for the position first by taking the Lominsan Civil Service Exam. Luckily for me, my service to the Weeaboo Police Department gets me extra points added to my overall score.




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