Hrothgar should be the final race added

[NarhiFaunlha]

YoshiP stated during Fanfest that at this current time, Hrothgar are considered to be the final race planned for the game- unless the community pushes for more to be added in the future. However as previously stated during prior interviews and fanfests, implementing a race in the game takes a substantial amount of development which means less resources for other areas of the game.

Instead of adding a new race, SE should focus on improving the current races we have in-game. Here are a few updates and improvements they should make:

• Give all races (specifically Au Ra, Elezen, and Viera) muscle sliders.
• Make Au Ra horn selection different from the face. Both Yugiri and Mide use a unique sculpt independent of their horns.
• Adding new faces to 2.0 races (specifically Elezen). Female Elezen in particular have only two 'true' faces, with and without makeup. Female Roegadyn have 3 faces but with limited options, with only 1 face being more popular than others. Hyur on the other hand have about 6 faces to choose from.
• Adding new tattoos to the character creator and/or allowing more than one facial marking.
• Adding an 'age' slider to create older looking characters.
• Adding scars or body markings in their own separate category, and making them independent of face shape.
• Choosing Miqo'te marks independent of the face, with the inclusion of body markings.
• Adding Far and Near Eastern deities for your character's Guardian Deity. (less important overall but still nice to have for roleplay purposes).

[TheMightyMollusk]

If they're gonna add more races in the future (because new player models are a huge selling point for new expansions), at least finish them first.

[DrForester]

YoshiP stated during Fanfest that at this current time, Hrothgar are considered to be the final race planned for the game- unless the community pushes for more to be added in the future. However as previously stated during prior interviews and fanfests, implementing a race in the game takes a substantial amount of development which means less resources for other areas of the game.

Instead of adding a new race, SE should focus on improving the current races we have in-game. Here are a few updates and improvements they should make:

• Give all races (specifically Au Ra, Elezen, and Viera) muscle sliders.
• Make Au Ra horn selection different from the face. Both Yugiri and Mide use a unique sculpt independent of their horns.
• Adding new faces to 2.0 races (specifically Elezen). Female Elezen in particular have only two 'true' faces, with and without makeup. Female Roegadyn have 3 faces but with limited options, with only 1 face being more popular than others. Hyur on the other hand have about 6 faces to choose from.
• Adding new tattoos to the character creator and/or allowing more than one facial marking.
• Adding an 'age' slider to create older looking characters.
• Adding scars or body markings in their own separate category, and making them independent of face shape.
• Choosing Miqo'te marks independent of the face, with the inclusion of body markings.
• Adding Far and Near Eastern deities for your character's Guardian Deity. (less important overall but still nice to have for roleplay purposes).

Those would all be nice additions, but keep in mind that this is a dev team that can't even get races they introduced 5 years ago up to snuff with the rest of the race choices, and show zero inclination to ever do so.

[dspguy]

Race in this game has no "value" other than aesthetics. The race differences are so small, they aren't really worth talking about. With that said, they could add 0 more or 10 more. It really wouldn't matter, other than SE's need to "explain" the introduction of a new race to the game.

[strawberrycake]

Race in this game has no "value" other than aesthetics. The race differences are so small, they aren't really worth talking about. With that said, they could add 0 more or 10 more. It really wouldn't matter, other than SE's need to "explain" the introduction of a new race to the game.

The issue would be the affect on development time, as developing Hrothgar and Viera literally ruined a lot of their schedules devs worked overtime with no pay and the team became way more stressed about it then they had to. That's not even talking about the multiple death threats they received, and the overall tone people had when this all started, feeling like content was sacrificed for the new races, which lead to a lot of in game bullying. I think it's in their best interest to not add more races to the game.

[SargeTheSeagull]

Beards. That is all.

[Astrus]

In the short term, I agree, in the long term I'll quote myself from the last time this thread came up

More options are always a good thing so I think they should continue to add new races.
Eventually. When they're feature-complete.
Nobody should want a repeat of the half-finished implementations we got for hroth and viera.
If they're not done for whatever expansion they were targeted for push them to the next expansion. On that note, don't even announce them until they're done and ready for release.
Their focus now should be on fixing viera and hrothgar, then making good on the debt they owe older races but after that I see no reason to not work on something new, especially if its just another existing skeleton with a different gimmick.

I'm fine with them taking their time and giving us a new race as a surprise sometime around 9.0 or so if they feel like adding more, especially if we're eventually looking at Expansions with just one or no new Jobs.
They should totally avoid the disaster that was "half"races, though, and only launch more when they're completely done. They probably should refrain from announcing any plans for a new race should they have them until they're done developing and ready to release the race, given how bad some parts of the community are at managing expectations.

With that said, I'm also fine with them leaving things as is and not adding another race as long as they continue to add content I consider worth my money.
Although I still think we could do with another small race that is not lalafell.


The ambiguous statement we got is their best move.
There's currently no plans for more races but we could still get them if the community is interested enough (which is a given) and the developers feel like adding another at some point in the future. Or we may never get any because it's just not worth the development resources to them.
It gives them options to do things at their own pace without anyone breathing down their necks about broken "promises".

[ReynTime]

Easy for some people to shout "no more races" when they have their fill of animal-ears waifu/pretty boy anime races while the game only had 1 race that wasn't that since A Realm Reborn.

[dspguy]

The issue would be the affect on development time, as developing Hrothgar and Viera literally ruined a lot of their schedules devs worked overtime with no pay and the team became way more stressed about it then they had to. That's not even talking about the multiple death threats they received, and the overall tone people had when this all started, feeling like content was sacrificed for the new races, which lead to a lot of in game bullying. I think it's in their best interest to not add more races to the game.

It's all a trade-off. If a new race brings in more money to SE, then expect to see more races. They either spend time developing a race or they spend time on something else. In my opinion, Viera and Hrothgar were botched because of headwear. That's something that should have been addressed well before the races were released.

[Niroken]

It's all a trade-off. If a new race brings in more money to SE, then expect to see more races. They either spend time developing a race or they spend time on something else. In my opinion, Viera and Hrothgar were botched because of headwear. That's something that should have been addressed well before the races were released.

Rumor has it they had to open a second Fantasia bottling plant to meet demand.