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  1. #1
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    Asteraku's Avatar
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    Yuva'to Mhuksooco
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    Zalera
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    Samurai Lv 90

    RPR hysteria needs to stop going through Guard

    It's getting to bothersome how it is immune to guard and can literally cause someone to get one shotted in FL. It's too busted.
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    Player fantasiaaddict's Avatar
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    Luneth Harvey
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    dw, next time theres a fanfest pvp tournament go and play as reaper and win, they'll realize it's too op and nerf it to oblivion
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  3. #3
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    Reinhardt_Azureheim's Avatar
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Asteraku View Post
    It's getting to bothersome how it is immune to guard and can literally cause someone to get one shotted in FL. It's too busted.
    If they do that people will instead use WAR, DNC or for singling out MNK. Guard having varied access of counterplay is important, what I'd rather look at is Plentiful Harvest turning the timer from 75s to essentially 45s and Plentiful Harvest CD resetting on death - so their LB is up very frequently.

    FL has its own fair share of issues, like how Limit Breaks get to charge for doing nothing (a feature in all modes but more BS in FL), or a lack of CC resist to a type after suffering from one previously.

    Short: The Hysteria and guard break is healthy, the low LB charge time thanks to Plentiful Harvest is not.
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  4. #4
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    TofuLove's Avatar
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    Tofu Love
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Honestly - try playing reaper yourself. It's not that broken because it only makes people one shot you if the whole team is already prepped a burst in advance - and synergy is everything in PVP.

    Typically you see a DRK running towards you, in that moment DRG is already in the LB in the air. DRK uses salted, you guard, reaper breaks guard and immediately DRG lbs. These are the tell tale signs of a drk/drg/rpr premade and it's usually so obvious from far far away that you need to get back asap and make their burst count as little as possible.

    If you are playing reaper pulling to the side and flanking is a good way or just teleporting back and then forward to counter hysteria after their burst as reaper on drk/drg/rpr combo also works very well to create opportunities. You can also hysteria the back line to make them miss the burst. Basically...as every class in pvp - limit break is only broken if team takes advantage of it and enemy doesn't see through it. You can also just play monk and make minced meat out of enemy commander or dedicate your whole queue to annoy the reaper by lbing them every time they come close.
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  5. #5
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    The potential to break guard is the main value that TL offers. Outside of that, the burst window is diluted by being spread across multiple hits, and then you're stuck trying to chase people down with your melee attacks while they are under the Hysteria effect. It also paints a giant bullseye on you. Contrast that with the various single hit burst and instant death abilities that the other melee options provide without the same degree of signposting to your opponents. In some ways, it feels like PH is the real LB and TL is just there to break guard.

    I'm kind of curious to know what sort of terrible misplay inspired this thread.
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    Eastwall's Avatar
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    Jumpshot Tryhard
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Lol. If you see a dk and reaper running toward You in frontline, you need to retreat. You eventually learn it after dying enough times.
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  7. #7
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    SpritePR's Avatar
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    Clotho Prima
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 100
    That's kind of reapers whole thing. Cant take away the one thing they are good at haha.
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  8. #8
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    Bicycle Salesman
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    Coeurl
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    Viper Lv 100
    Its a guard break. Thats quite literally its job and it does it well. Not op
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    Runic Raven
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    Zodiark
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    Reaper is my only weapon against these pesky DRK Dragoon setups. I just have to hope the Server realized that i feared the DRK before he used Salted.

    I ruined so many DRK pulls with that ult that i barely play anything else anymore.
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  10. #10
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    Legendairy Products
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    Exodus
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Asteraku View Post
    It's getting to bothersome how it is immune to guard and can literally cause someone to get one shotted in FL. It's too busted.
    Besides the CD time of the LB(which you haven't mentioned in your post so I will assume you didn't think about that), I don't see how the LB is any different from any of the other jobs that can take you out of guard. Especially when it's one of the pain pieces of utility that RPR brings to a group in PvP.
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