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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Kyokuho practices Doman geomancy. Hingan geomancy is a bunch of charlatans spouting superstition to get people to pay them for consulting.
    I don't recall them ever making such a distinction. Kyokuho's explanation in the level 65 quest seems to indicate that the charlatans are directly mimicking Kyokuho's grandfather's discipline for profit, not that they were a separate pre-existing one.

    In any case, my core point remains that just because we've seen one school of geomancy doesn't mean there can't be others, and also that despite any talk about successful merging of astro-geomancy into a single concept, our practical AST skills have little to show for it besides perhaps Earthly Star, which we learn well before the Stormblood questline concludes.

    So, if AST remains strictly astrological despite its lore-ties to geomancy, then the opposite can also be true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I don't recall them ever making such a distinction. Kyokuho's explanation in the level 65 quest seems to indicate that the charlatans are directly mimicking Kyokuho's grandfather's discipline for profit, not that they were a separate pre-existing one.
    Quote Originally Posted by EE2
    The discipline first arose in Yanxia, its secrets passed on from aged master to chosen student in the traditional manner.
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    In the nation of Hingashi, however, the geomancer's banishing and binding of evil has been misconstrued as a means to manipulate the land and invite good fortune, leading the populace to consider these mages as little more than advisors for aspiring merchants.
    Kyokuho himself in Hingan, but the geomancy he practices is closer to the original since it's legitimate magic. What the charlatans are doing seems to be how the art is perceived as a whole in Hingashi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Kyokuho himself in Hingan, but the geomancy he practices is closer to the original since it's legitimate magic. What the charlatans are doing seems to be how the art is perceived as a whole in Hingashi.
    You're making assumptions that don't seem to be there. The quest says that people started doing the false type of geomancy after seeing Kazan do it for real. The false type is rife now in Hingashi (or at least Kugane) as a consequence, but that isn't the same as saying the false type is inherently Hingan or the true type is Doman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    You're making assumptions that don't seem to be there. The quest says that people started doing the false type of geomancy after seeing Kazan do it for real. The false type is rife now in Hingashi (or at least Kugane) as a consequence, but that isn't the same as saying the false type is inherently Hingan or the true type is Doman.
    I'm saying what the encyclopedia says, and it says exactly what I quoted about the art being confused in Hingashi. Kyokuho's grandfather Kazan, the one who the Hingan geomancers were copying, was trained in Yanxia. The thing the Hingan charlatans are doing was invented by other charlatans watching Kazan.
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