We need an Eastern themed caster

[DamianFatale]

There is literally a land of the far east, and not a single eastern caster. Western and European themed magic is cool, but its time for the east to get a caster next time around.

Geomancer
A mage with paper seals floating around them (love those class types in RPG)
Onmyoji
Oracle

There are so many themes that could be used to make an eastern caster a reality in FFXIV.

[Kes13a]

I would prefer a theme that fixes what we have currently, before adding in yet more jobs.

[Supersnow845]

GEO is already covered by AST as per the game’s lore and even though it’s meant to be pages so many of SCH’s moves already look like they have the “seal” from eastern lore in them (aetherflow, excog and protraction all use this style of move)

But I also agree with kes I know that “new jobs sell expansions” but the current jobs are already in the toilet (especially the 7 current casters), pls fix them first

[Mithron]

We don't have an offensive caster that uses bells with water/wind/earth ambient aether magic, so no, GEO is not covered.

Although I'm not a fan of eastern culture at all, it would fit GEO as we already have precedent for it with the Swallow's Compass.

[Supersnow845]

We don't have an offensive caster that uses bells with water/wind/earth ambient aether magic, so no, GEO is not covered.

Although I'm not a fan of eastern culture at all, it would fit GEO as we already have precedent for it with the Swallow's Compass.

The entire lore of the 70 AST questline is basically “AST look up at stars, GEO look down at star but we are the same”

They won’t make GEO an offensive caster when they have gone out of their way to include it in the lore it’s just AST

[Volgia]

The entire lore of the 70 AST questline is basically “AST look up at stars, GEO look down at star but we are the same”

They won’t make GEO an offensive caster when they have gone out of their way to include it in the lore it’s just AST

When you guys say offensive casters I imagine some mage throwing out slurs...

[Mithron]

The entire lore of the 70 AST questline is basically “AST look up at stars, GEO look down at star but we are the same”

They won’t make GEO an offensive caster when they have gone out of their way to include it in the lore it’s just AST

Yeah but who cares. Swallow's Compass has dudes ringing giant bells then huge water wind earth stuff happens. That's GEO. Not AST.

[Naraku_Diabolos]

The entire lore of the 70 AST questline is basically “AST look up at stars, GEO look down at star but we are the same”

They won’t make GEO an offensive caster when they have gone out of their way to include it in the lore it’s just AST

GEO in FFXI was fun to play and it’s a lot different. We could setup “totems” that give buffs or enemy debuffs in bubbles like it does in FFXI. However unlike FFXI, it can still use various types of spells that are Water, Earth, and Wind. We don’t even have a bell weapon yet.

[DamianFatale]

GEO is already covered by AST as per the game’s lore and even though it’s meant to be pages so many of SCH’s moves already look like they have the “seal” from eastern lore in them (aetherflow, excog and protraction all use this style of move)

But I also agree with kes I know that “new jobs sell expansions” but the current jobs are already in the toilet (especially the 7 current casters), pls fix them first

I am so tired of this argument. Geo is not covered by AST. If Geo were a new job, it would likely not be a healer, and its animations would be completely different. This would change it drastically. I highly doubt they put as much effort into GEO in the lore for the AST quests as much as they would if they made it a new job. People need to realize that devs CAN and will go above and beyond when fully fleshing a new job. Nothing makes a job impossible. Time Mage can still exist with Astrologian in the game. Dark Knight and Reaper are basically the same job in FF history, but are made completely different. The request for a scythe type of Dark Knight in the DPS role was strong, so they did it and made it a thing of its own.

We could definitely get other job splits. Some people for example want Berserker which might be extremely similar to Warrior, but again they could make a different role, and give it a different vibe. SE should definitely avoid early introducing potential future jobs inside of any job quests unless they 100% plan to release them later. The confusion the Geo Astrologian quest caused is obnoxious. Players are not smart enough to think outside of the box, and not assume its dead in the water.

[Supersnow845]

I am so tired of this argument. Geo is not covered by AST. If Geo were a new job, it would likely not be a healer, and its animations would be completely different. This would change it drastically. I highly doubt they put as much effort into GEO in the lore for the AST quests as much as they would if they made it a new job. People need to realize that devs CAN and will go above and beyond when fully fleshing a new job. Nothing makes a job impossible. Time Mage can still exist with Astrologian in the game. Dark Knight and Reaper are basically the same job in FF history, but are made completely different. The request for a scythe type of Dark Knight in the DPS role was strong, so they did it and made it a thing of its own.

We could definitely get other job splits. Some people for example want Berserker which might be extremely similar to Warrior, but again they could make a different role, and give it a different vibe. SE should definitely avoid early introducing potential future jobs inside of any job quests unless they 100% plan to release them later. The confusion the Geo Astrologian quest caused is obnoxious. Players are not smart enough to think outside of the box, and not assume its dead in the water.

Because this isn’t “the classes are similar and come from the same roots in FF” this is straight up the lore says that GEO and AST are exactly the same class and this is backed up by the fact that the GEO NPC uses a bell like normal GEO, RPR was never mentioned prior as being a DRK in the DRK quest, they aren’t remotely comparable

This isn’t saying “oh they could do more if they actually put GEO into the game” this is the devs putting it into the lore they are the same class, there is no confusion on what the lore of those quests actually means, GEO and AST are the same thing in 14 lore