Some of my own personal feedback on the game

[FarelTheGecko]

Hello, given that Endwalker is nearing its end, I feel like sharing my feedback on how I feel about it:

Lackluster Relics - This was just buying stuff. It was not engaging at all. I hope we get something more satisfying next time
Alliance Raids - We as players have outgrown the content in terms of our itemLevels. Certain boss mechanics of ones in Euphrosyne and especially Aglaia get skipped, which feels like a shame. I understand that being a bit stronger should make a difference, but it shouldn't be that easy to skip entire portions of the fight. Shouldn't there be a tighter ItemLevel synch or something?
Alliance Raids in Wondrous Tails - This is just a general idea that I came up with: Group Alliance Raids by expansion! I understand that there’s 15 of them currently, which is only a bit over 1 entire raid series for an expansion; however as opposed to a normal raid, Alliance Raids are always guaranteed to last a long time. Often times in a week, I run Normal Raid roulette in the hope that I might land on a Raid that’s in my Wondrous Tails, but I fear doing the same for Alliance Raids, because of how much it'll take me to complete an A-raid that's not of my interest. Given the current structure at the max level, there are 18 possible normal raid entries to get in Wondrous Tails.
Criterion Dungeons - I was looking forward to this, but the challenge was just too big, and even my more skilled friends have given up doing the content. I am even more fearful about its future post this expansion, as it seems like it is not something that we’d be able to do with an Undersized Party, meaning that I wouldn’t get a chance to cheese everything at level 90, to at least get the map exploration achievement
Eureka Orthos - This deep dungeon was a source of frustration for me for months. With Heaven-On-High as a party, I was ⅘ with the clears, with only one failed run. With Eureka Orthos, it was the opposite! I got my first clear on my 5th climb (ignoring those that ended before floor 50). In HoH, a lot of mobs simply had the challenge of including an enrage, which would be of no problem to a party, but was an intense challenge for anyone soloing. Here it feels like even a prepared run with people who know what they're doing can easily fail due to unfair bad luck.... This one I admit might be more of a personal preference, and there likely are many who don’t mind being challenged by content of this level, but to me, this crossed the line.

That would be all. Thank you very much. I understand that I might be ignored here, especially given how little time there is until Dawntrail comes out, and that many might disagree with my opinions here, but I just wanted to say what was on my mind

[Rekh]

Eureka orthos was a pure dumpster fire. Deep dungeons have just become recycled content, with only the last 20 floors having anything unique to them.

[Mosha]

Eureka orthos was a pure dumpster fire. Deep dungeons have just become recycled content, with only the last 20 floors having anything unique to them.

That isn't true, EO is a lot more scary with damage and mechanics from an earlier floor.

[FarelTheGecko]

I agree with Mosha. Already 21-30 isn't something you can go through as blindly as was the case in HoH, and 40-70 already presents a challenge for an inexperienced group. I found it a bit frustrating, but I understand the approach for sure... PotD was boring until like Floor 170/180, that was extremely painful. HoH only got more intense in the second half. EO wants to be a bit of a challenge early on already. What got on my nerves was that I had several runs end in the 71-75 range, because of small mistakes, because of one person misunderstanding something or 1 guy going "Eh, I don't need voicechat. I'll be fine", which doomed all of us.

I appreciate a variety of mechanics, but it was frustrating to keep failing, and not because of my own mistakes.

I've had people be adamant about defending EO, but when I explained my reasoning, they were more willing to admit that certain aspects could have been improved.

I do not HATE the content, I just dislike how punishing things could get.

[Ardeth]

That isn't true, EO is a lot more scary with damage and mechanics from an earlier floor.

I'm 100% convinced that the reason Eureka Orthos was dead on arrival was because of the spike in difficulty. From my experience anyway doing it casually and really only up to what you can queue for with the Duty Finder. But I never had people rage quit and leave as much as I did doing Orthos. I also never had the amount of deaths and full party wipes since Orthos. At least to me, it makes perfect sense that it's dead. As SE didn't adjust it for the average player. Again, I have never done anything past what I can queue for, so I'm not sure how that compares to its normal difficulty range. But it seemed a lot harder than I would've expected it to be.

I remember being excited to level a lot of stuff to 90 with it, but it died. Nobody would queue for it ,or I should say I'm not waiting 30+ minutes for a run when I'm trying to spam level.

[Padudu]

I'm 100% convinced that the reason Eureka Orthos was dead on arrival was because of the spike in difficulty. From my experience anyway doing it casually and really only up to what you can queue for with the Duty Finder. But I never had people rage quit and leave as much as I did doing Orthos. I also never had the amount of deaths and full party wipes since Orthos. At least to me, it makes perfect sense that it's dead. As SE didn't adjust it for the average player. Again, I have never done anything past what I can queue for, so I'm not sure how that compares to its normal difficulty range. But it seemed a lot harder than I would've expected it to be.

I remember being excited to level a lot of stuff to 90 with it, but it died. Nobody would queue for it ,or I should say I'm not waiting 30+ minutes for a run when I'm trying to spam level.

HoH is harder than EO lol. EO was dead on arrival because it isn't fun. The mechanics aren't hard, they're just enrage, enrage, enrage on the floors. EW is obsessed with having enrages, limit cuts, ect. The rewards aren't really worth it besides the mounts, and it's just recycled rewards from other places aside the furniture.

HoH is just a funner experience overall. EO doesn't provide anything new that hasn't been seen in PotD or HoH.

[Ardeth]

HoH is harder than EO lol. EO was dead on arrival because it isn't fun. The mechanics aren't hard, they're just enrage, enrage, enrage on the floors. EW is obsessed with having enrages, limit cuts, ect. The rewards aren't really worth it besides the mounts, and it's just recycled rewards from other places aside the furniture.

HoH is just a funner experience overall. EO doesn't provide anything new that hasn't been seen in PotD or HoH.

I'm just telling you my experience with it. It's like any other system. Apathy is death, and Eureka Orthos is dead.

[Padudu]

I'm just telling you my experience with it. It's like any other system. Apathy is death, and Eureka Orthos is dead.

I wasn't disagreeing with you ftr, just adding onto it since I've done it as well.

It's a bummer because if they actually took feedback into consideration and changed it up instead of leaving it DOA, it could've been pretty good.

[Colt47]

I feel like the failure was more on the strategy of trying to make mitigation matters by amping up damage and then not being fast enough on the gun to fix things as problems arise. When someone tries to introduce something as game changing as amping up special attack damage and downgrading general defense, they can't simply leave stuff on the table and wait it out until the next xpack. Even if people weather the storm the community playing isn't going to be holding up well since now they know if something is broke, they might as well walk away. From what I can tell a lot of people did walk away for literal months and only are starting to return now that Dawn Trail has been announced.

First off, the dungeon experience is pretty bad for level 80 with certain combinations of jobs (DRK + SCH being one of them), due to their "special kit" not keeping up with the other tanks. When one tank can basically self heal multiple times + mitigate at the same time, while another tank has to shield and rotate defense cooldowns like they are still at level 70, there is an issue. The other problem is that they sort of screwed up Savage and made it too heavy on body checks. With the new design they seem to lean too much on enrage and execution as the baseline for pass/fail, over just learning the mechanics, as if they forgot that people have to clear these fights multiple times to get items.

I haven't really seen a unilateral agreement that an expansion is a bad one before in the FFXIV community but I'm hoping this is as bad as it gets. I'd hate to live through a Warlords of Draenor Era situation in FFXIV because that would truly be awful.

[Ardeth]

I wasn't disagreeing with you ftr, just adding onto it since I've done it as well.

It's a bummer because if they actually took feedback into consideration and changed it up instead of leaving it DOA, it could've been pretty good.

To be fair, the majority of feedback sucks.

Exploratory zones were absolutely hated by players on the causal end at the time. To the point they stopped doing them. Only for those very same players to scream from the rooftops that they want them back. And I'm here shrugging thinking they sucked and I'm glad they're gone. But it looks like their back again. Maybe this time they won't be so convaluted and boring? We can only hope. Though boring is a matter of opinion. They are absolutely convaluted as hell though. Better Google your best actions because they can't make engaging content without making me level again... Seriously who likes going back to level 1 and having to catalog abilities you can only use in this zone? God I hate those things, but guess what's back!