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  1. #31
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    Kikio_The_Blu's Avatar
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    Kikio Kio
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    Mateus
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    Black Mage Lv 100

    OHHHH! THE MISERYYYY!

    "HOW DARE THEY PICK KRILE FOR PICTOMANCER!!! WHY COULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN YIFFSTOLA OR ALPHINAUD, INSTEAD THEY PICKED A MAIN CHAR WHO HAS BEEN THE SAME JOB SINCE HEAVENSWARD TO GET A REVAMP IT'S SO UNFAIRRRRRR!!!"

    Krile has been the same job since Heavensward (WHM) and she is a major character with fans, so it would make sense to give her Pictomancer. I have heard the argument that Alphi should of been it since he is canonically an "artsy type" who paints but he JUST got Sage, and Ystola fans are on a whole different level of nonsense trying to justify her being Picto. And yes, I know Estinien has been DRG since ARR, but he can't NOT be a Dragoon it is pretty much his main character trait.
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  2. #32
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    Lily Jun
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    Seraph
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Would've preferred an unknown new character for picto. I'm actually expecting the msq to be another scion slog for DT when there's no reason for it. I don't care about all the conversations about the voice actor for wuk'lamat....the character is just bad....so that also lowers my expectations....let's hope at least eng game is good and they don't ruin classes too much.
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  3. #33
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Would you ppl have preferred a big sourfaced Male Au Ra or Roe in a magical girl outfit brandishing a paintbrush as our new Pictomancer MSQ NPC?
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  4. #34
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    CidHeiral's Avatar
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    Cid Heiral
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    I don't care about Krile being a Pictomancer. I care about Krile now being a more active member of the party, because Krile sucks. Hopefully Dawntrail changes that but I'm not holding my breath.
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  5. #35
    Player Rekh's Avatar
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    Fresh Tree
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Would you ppl have preferred a big sourfaced Male Au Ra or Roe in a magical girl outfit brandishing a paintbrush as our new Pictomancer MSQ NPC?
    Yes, Yellow Moon would've been perfect

    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    I don't care about Krile being a Pictomancer. I care about Krile now being a more active member of the party, because Krile sucks. Hopefully Dawntrail changes that but I'm not holding my breath.
    Why does she suck?
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  6. #36
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Pictomancer is going to fit perfectly well into the world of moogle sky-kingdoms, Namazu festivals, time-travelling axolotls and whose oh-so-wise pseudogoddess decided that the best thing to help people through the impending apocalypse was a horde of adorable bunny rabbits of questionable competence.
    *sigh*

    Let me see if I can be a little more specific. Moogles are staple to the FF franchise, and tribe likes the Namazu and Loporitts while cute, fit into the lore of their respective areas. Right there, I just described how these specific tribes fit into the world of FFXIV. They are their own entities that don't rely on arguments based on the existence of other cutesy things in FFXIV to justify their place. So again I ask you, how does Pictomancer fit in? Especially in regards to their battle effects.

    I'm not saying they can't exist. I am saying they don't fit in. I am saying the dev team could have done a WAY better job when it comes to bringing this job into the game. Even more emphasis is placed on this because no one was asking for this job. Players were wanting Geomancer, Green Mage, Necromancer, or Chemist in which three of these mentions already have existing lore in FFXIV.
    You're going to have to do a little better than, "Well, I like it."

    And I think non-Lalafells will be fine at the pictomancer vibe. Yes, it will probably work best with characters who (regardless of race) suit a cutesy style, but a single character can pull off so many different moods while only changing their outfit, and in any case it's no different to reaper requiring an edgy mood or sage being cool and collected or any other stereotypes you might want to associate with past races.
    Sure. I never said the job is Lala specific. Only that they will have the easiest time pulling off the aesthetic. Midlanders, Miqo'te, and Viera (both sexes) can also pull off Pictomancer reasonably well. I think even male Hrothgars could do it. However, the cartoony battle effects remain the same regardless of which race/gender is playing the job. But this is neither here nor there. Krile's personality does not fit the aesthetic. It does not fit the role. She is being shoehorned in because she is a Lalafell, not because it seems like a natural transition.

    Y'shtola changing to BLM/Sorceress makes sense due to her magical background and personality. Thancred changing from Rogue to Gunbreaker due to his protective nature over Ryne/Minfillia makes sense (Ryne herself even takes after him and learns the ways of the Rogue). Alphy and Alisaie's job changes also are very natural and fitting transitions. You say Krile will make it work. I hope you're right. Because everything about her screams that she's a healer. She's as much a healer as Estenien is a Dragoon. It's difficult to imagine them any other way.

    Personally I'm itching to play around with it on most of my characters, like my cute male Miqo'te and Viera and my very girly Roegadyn; I've also put together a few costumes in advance including some more serious Renaissance artist sort of vibe that will suit my Elezen, so I think it's quite possible to get a glamour look away from the cute style regardless of what the attacks are going to be like.
    That's fine. I don't take issue with players who are excited about the job coming to the game. My issue is with the job itself, and the dev team could have, and should have done better.
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    Last edited by Gemina; 02-07-2024 at 05:13 AM.

  7. #37
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    S'hozqha Kalaquaz
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    Arcanist Lv 2
    I figure this was done so that some kind of Krile-as-pictomancer poster art can be the main visual used during the next advertising blitz (in public places, on billboards, busses and such), rather than the released Dawntrail poster. It would be colorful and draw players to the game, even if such a poster would be misrepresenting the game a bit.

    If someone could do some art of Hoary Boulder as pictomancer, that would be something.
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  8. #38
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    ironically a nature based mage would fit her perfectly. well, at least her ability to understand feelings of even animals screams nature.
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  9. #39
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Would you ppl have preferred a big sourfaced Male Au Ra or Roe in a magical girl outfit brandishing a paintbrush as our new Pictomancer MSQ NPC?
    Actually, now that you mention it- yes, yes, I honestly I would have, and just reading this made me smile.
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  10. #40
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Would you ppl have preferred a big sourfaced Male Au Ra or Roe in a magical girl outfit brandishing a paintbrush as our new Pictomancer MSQ NPC?
    Magnai takes up the brush, looking for a new path to find his Nhaama.

    Sadu dies laughing.
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