Welp, the Xbox version is dead in the water. What were they thinking?

[Cat_Girl]

I think you'll find that after ten years of trying to get Microsoft to drop the Game Pass requirement, Square finally gave in and made this deal.

Back in the day, they did a deal for FFXI Online on the Xbox360, you could get a free silver membership to bypass the Gold (paid), but not here.

It is unfortunate, but you could still play with your current character by purchasing the PC/Mac/Steam/PS4/5 version if you have access to one or more of those platforms.

Really depends on how much you use your Xbox, but if you don't use it much, you could always pawn it and get a PS5 or gaming laptop/PC good enough to play modern games.
Just saying, as they won't drop the Game Pass requirement.

[LinkPK]

Square ignores this forum like a plague because we dont congest our threads to megathreads, you'd have better luck translating it to JP and posting it on theirs. If JP backs this up it'll definitely reach them much faster.

I'm aware it's a community problem but that doesn't mean Square has any bend over Microsoft lol. Unless the Xbox side of things is blowing Microsoft out of the water financially, what incentive do they have to fix anything that other games are already using? They're most likely locked into a contract as well so not sure how easily they can go about demanding changes while bound to that.

I'm an Xbox user for games outside of 14 but this is personally the first time I've seen such an uproar over how Microsoft does their subscription services. Maybe I've just been under a rock but I'm curious why that is if true.

Thanks for the idea.

It was a terrible mistake to address this issue on reddit. Everyone was replying like a effing idiot and without respect. Well, reddit-like.

[Boblawblah]

I've invested more than 500 hours on this game on Xbox already. I was so happy I could finally play with my brother, who has been playing for 10 years now. I just realized that as an Xbox player, I have to pay the whole game and all its expansions+monthly game pass+FFXIV monthly subscription.

What the actual hell?

I'm sorry because I really enjoy and love the game but I'm gonna have to abandon it, because I refuse to pay three times to play one 10 year old game. 30€ a month for a game? Nah, I'm sorry greedysoft.
I thought I only needed GamePass to play it, as it happened somehow on the PlayStation: You only had to pay the FFXIV sub to play it. No PSPlus required.

Now Microsoft wants me to pay BOTH things? Hell no. I'm struggling enough in life to pay that much money to play a videogame.
Don't get me wrong, I love Final Fantasy since I was a kid, but I'd rather pay my bills and eat than playing a game.

It pains me because I've been enjoying it so much so far as you can see on my profile. Almost every character at max level (lvl 70 with the cap, of course), but this is goodbye.
I've created an FC and it leveled up a lot. Daily EXP boosts and different for the weekends. Got a nice housing at The Goblet. Duties and raids together as a party. Made really good friends along the way. All goes to the bin.

I hope, I really hope devs read this and help us out, but I doubt it.

Cheers,

Link

I think you have to think of it like this:

Are you going to use gamepass regardless of FFXIV? If so, you're good. If you don't use gamepass other than FFXIV then you're paying twice.

Unless the real issue is, you just don't like the idea of paying a monthly sub for an mmo when you're already paying for gamepass (even though you play other games on it).

[Kuroka]

Imo they shouldve made it so you pay at least a bit less sub on xbox to make up for it...

[Taliriah]

I think you have to think of it like this:

Are you going to use gamepass regardless of FFXIV? If so, you're good. If you don't use gamepass other than FFXIV then you're paying twice.

Unless the real issue is, you just don't like the idea of paying a monthly sub for an mmo when you're already paying for gamepass (even though you play other games on it).

I think they simply don't like that ms forces you to pay them (MS) a sub in one way or another to play a game whose servers are managed by a third party (to whom you also play a sub, but there it's justified: they're the one providing the actual service). Not everyone adheres to the monthly sub model of gamepass, some people are happy to own their games.

Honestly I never understood how console players ever tolerated that kind of BS. I worked on an online game (that didn't require a sub) and I remember being dumbfounded at the fact that our console players had to pay sony/ms a sub to be able to access most functionalities (when we, not them, were the ones managing and incurring the servers costs! incidentally were were also the ones in charge of all the work of limiting functionalities accordingly and to display upsell screens for sony/ms subscription BS)

[Ardeth]

Hey, my post came back, lol!



The best case scenario is to buy the maximum of all of those subscriptions that come to around $18 USD, which is better than the $23 it would be monthly. At least for me, that is. I pay for the one character per realm subscription. But the whole double subscription thing is still terrible. But at least you have access to Gamepass when you get bored of 14. I'm just saying. I've softened on this listening to other people, but I'm still on the side of why did we need to do this instead of just delaying it until Microsoft let up if and when they ever even would. But I'm glad the Xbox players are happy. That's all that matters.

[LuminaLumi]

I've invested more than 500 hours on this game on Xbox already. I was so happy I could finally play with my brother, who has been playing for 10 years now. I just realized that as an Xbox player, I have to pay the whole game and all its expansions+monthly game pass+FFXIV monthly subscription.

What the actual hell?

I'm sorry because I really enjoy and love the game but I'm gonna have to abandon it, because I refuse to pay three times to play one 10 year old game. 30€ a month for a game? Nah, I'm sorry greedysoft.
I thought I only needed GamePass to play it, as it happened somehow on the PlayStation: You only had to pay the FFXIV sub to play it. No PSPlus required.

Now Microsoft wants me to pay BOTH things? Hell no. I'm struggling enough in life to pay that much money to play a videogame.
Don't get me wrong, I love Final Fantasy since I was a kid, but I'd rather pay my bills and eat than playing a game.

It pains me because I've been enjoying it so much so far as you can see on my profile. Almost every character at max level (lvl 70 with the cap, of course), but this is goodbye.
I've created an FC and it leveled up a lot. Daily EXP boosts and different for the weekends. Got a nice housing at The Goblet. Duties and raids together as a party. Made really good friends along the way. All goes to the bin.

I hope, I really hope devs read this and help us out, but I doubt it.

Cheers,

Link

I agree that it's bs that you have to have an active Game Pass Core (Xbox Live Gold) or Ultimate to access the game. However, even if you were to change platform you would still have to buy the game + expansions on those platforms too. In addition, the game subscription is 12,99€ for starter membership (includes 1 character per server) and Game Pass Core is 6,99€ per month so it's 20, not 30. You can also very easily buy prepaid Game Pass Core/Ultimate cards online and stock up for a good while for cheap.

While we're at it, I'll add some issues on the Xbox client they've yet to fix: the language filter and terrible loading times. Try dying in an alliance raid and getting ressed, or try a fight where you have to change areas (like Cerberus' stomach). You'll see what I mean.

[caffe_macchiato]

I enjoy seeing all of the people blaming Microsoft. Yes, Microsoft is a bad company with bad people, and your hardware is sold at a loss with the intent of you buying a subscription. However, Square Enix Holdings Co., Ltd. needs to acknowledge that not everyone needs to pay a sub fee to fund its mediocre WoW clone. Unlike what the shills are saying, we are not seeing droves of new Xbox players. This is a tiny market. Like how Square Enix can give away the trial for free, it can also waive the subscription fee for Xbox players. The company is still making money from the game sales and the small number of players means that it won't require server resources to host them.

Perhaps this is a great time to figure out revenue streams that don't rely on a subscription, but then again, this is also a dying company that has lost billions of dollars due to poor decisions. FFXIV will likely be this company's swan song before it goes bankrupt.

[Taliriah]

I enjoy seeing all of the people blaming Microsoft. Yes, Microsoft is a bad company with bad people, and your hardware is sold at a loss with the intent of you buying a subscription. However, Square Enix Holdings Co., Ltd. needs to acknowledge that not everyone needs to pay a sub fee to fund its mediocre WoW clone. Unlike what the shills are saying, we are not seeing droves of new Xbox players. This is a tiny market. Like how Square Enix can give away the trial for free, it can also waive the subscription fee for Xbox players. The company is still making money from the game sales and the small number of players means that it won't require server resources to host them.

Perhaps this is a great time to figure out revenue streams that don't rely on a subscription, but then again, this is also a dying company that has lost billions of dollars due to poor decisions. FFXIV will likely be this company's swan song before it goes bankrupt.

"SQEX is a dying company that lost tons of money therefore they should let microsoft (a decidedly not dying company) be the ones to earn sub money from their game. But SQEX should of course still be the ones paying for the infrastructure". That's certainly a take.

Defending a mega corporation like MS while calling people shills is also certainly interesting. Hypocrisy levels: off the chart

[Derio]

I dont know why people thought this was new. Xbox has other MMOs on it that has the requirement, ESO, DCUO, etc.