RP shout ads are obstructive to chat and gameplay

[Gordita]

I already mentioned in this thread what my idea would be , even though the devs know better what they can do so maybe they can come up with something better. the solution I suggest is a new chat filter that behaves like system messages so all online players can see it without having to sit idle in town. This also might help the fps dump from it being overcrowded but that's not a huge deal. Then I'd say a 60 minute delay between messages would work, since if linking a pf, that's how long a pf stays up before needing to be reposted, and it's also the norm for shout runners. I can't speak for limitations about servers or data centers, so they might have to world hop still and data center hop, but at least they wouldnt have to city hop as well. It would save them a ton of time so they can spend more time enjoying the activities they like. And it would annoy less people, and cause less problems that are often caused by flooded chats. And you're right, one msg per hour from a single person isn't spam. But nonstop messages from members of a certain community within the xiv community is spam, though it's not they can or would go after an entire community for it. Again , GM's chasing people down and punishing isn't a solution either. The devs giving something to them to make life easier for them and better for everyone else is a perfect solution

[AlexiaD]

I already mentioned in this thread what my idea would be , even though the devs know better what they can do so maybe they can come up with something better. the solution I suggest is a new chat filter that behaves like system messages so all online players can see it without having to sit idle in town. This also might help the fps dump from it being overcrowded but that's not a huge deal. Then I'd say a 60 minute delay between messages would work, since if linking a pf, that's how long a pf stays up before needing to be reposted, and it's also the norm for shout runners. I can't speak for limitations about servers or data centers, so they might have to world hop still and data center hop, but at least they wouldnt have to city hop as well. It would save them a ton of time so they can spend more time enjoying the activities they like. And it would annoy less people, and cause less problems that are often caused by flooded chats. And you're right, one msg per hour from a single person isn't spam. But nonstop messages from members of a certain community within the xiv community is spam, though it's not they can or would go after an entire community for it. Again , GM's chasing people down and punishing isn't a solution either. The devs giving something to them to make life easier for them and better for everyone else is a perfect solution

[Padudu]

It's like talking to a brick wall fr

[Gordita]

Starting to think the people who come here to argue secretly hate rp people and venues since they don't seem to want them to have a new feature implemented that would be a win - win for literally everybody

[AlexiaD]

It's like talking to a brick wall fr

At least it's kind of funny, I gotta admit it's entertaining to a certain extent

[strawberrycake]

Starting to think the people who come here to argue secretly hate rp people and venues since they don't seem to want them to have a new feature implemented that would be a win - win for literally everybody

No most of these people like to play devils advocate over seeking ways to create middle grounds and improve the game. I already said here several times adding in a specific chat for Ads and Recruitment for players to spam to their hearts content would be the best solution. But these people just wanna pick at people.

[CVXIV]

While not the intent of this thread, I am rather curious about the venue you speak of your FC owning considering it seems rather difficult to actually reach max capacity of a venue. Though perhaps that is due to my assumption you mean a large home and not a smaller one.

Either way, as I've said I don't see anything being done here.

• Fellowships are awful and not the right solution for these advertisements.
• A global chat specifically for advertisements would be ineffecient because then everyone would want to use that to talk in, and it would repeat the current issue in your eyes.
• A new chat specifically for roleplay advertisements wouldn't work because unless they are the same range as shout chat, people will complain and not use it or just use both.

Even if fellowships are fixed, what would prohibit these people advertising from doing so? It's not against the ToS so if you wish to report every single one then by all means, but you may find it ignored.

Fellowships are essentilly mini-forums that people can post in and get notifications for. The main draw would be getting people to join a discord or some other means of communication, but what is more likely for someone to look at between fellowships and shout chat?

As someone from Crystal, what is considered by many the RP hub, the shout spam isn't as bad as it's being made out to be. I still see shouts for hunt trains or world bosses and it can be annoying if someone posts an ad right after, sure, but I wouldn't consider that to be obstructive to gameplay.

What is being portrayed here is that shout chat as it stands is unusable but I see people use it all the time to talk whenever I go to limsa which I will admit isn't as often as others.

Which I think is a core issue with the argument being brought up - every world and data center is different. The solution would need to cover all of them and everyone has varying experiences with it.

What I would like to see personally is a tag in party finder so it can be filtered out or specifically searched for by people who want it. That wouldn't change too much and something SE would likely be okay with doing. An RP status already exists in the game you can swap to whenever you like, so the icon can be taken from that.

[CVXIV]

At least it's kind of funny, I gotta admit it's entertaining to a certain extent

It's definitely been an amusing read. This and that Wuk Lamat forum have been pretty entertaining when I've had nothing better to do.

[Gordita]

Fellowships aren't ideal for this, you're right. I touched on that already and how they could be improved.

The "global" chat I suggested also has a one hour timer between messages, that wouldn't be able to be used as a channel for chit chat.

The new chat wouldn't have a range. That's been mentioned a couple times but it's not exactly relevant since the new channel was suggested to behave like system messages so it doesn't matter where the readers are or the people typing in it as it would be seen by anybody online who has that channel displayed in a chat tab.

All of these topics have been addressed prior to this but I have no problem reiterating once more.

Shout chat is often unusable but not always, the bigger issue is that it's being used less and less by people daily, with the exception of people shouting various ads. It's being used less for content because of the insane amount of ads. Since there's so many ads, why not just have a new feature to keep the flooding of shout to a minimum?

"If people want to do content they can just check pf instead of joining things spontaneously via someone shouting and requesting help" is an argument that was brought up
Venue goers could just go browse the other tab in pf and shout runners could stop flooding shout chat, by that same standard. Nobody seemed to care about mentioning that though.

[Gordita]

No most of these people like to play devils advocate over seeking ways to create middle grounds and improve the game. I already said here several times adding in a specific chat for Ads and Recruitment for players to spam to their hearts content would be the best solution. But these people just wanna pick at people.

I didn't mean you lol I meant the people who come here to contribute nothing and cause crap with arguments and making up nonsense etc. All the baseless nonsense to derail the thread without offering anything constructive... Just mind boggling how strange some people are.