RP shout ads are obstructive to chat and gameplay

[strawberrycake]

Ever consider that people just don't want to interact with minors in any capacity lol. I don't either. Why do you think so many people have "21+ only no minors". It's because even in SFW RP they don't want to interact with minors you weirdo. Stop twisting it to be like it's always erp lmao. Adults trying to avoid unnecessary interactions with minors should be a GOOD thing.

Yeah, a lot of these people would be surprised at the amount of people who want paces that exclude children since they know children play the game and don't wanna be near them.

[Bonoki]

Ever consider that people just don't want to interact with minors in any capacity lol. I don't either. Why do you think so many people have "21+ only no minors". It's because even in SFW RP they don't want to interact with minors you weirdo. Stop twisting it to be like it's always erp lmao. Adults trying to avoid unnecessary interactions with minors should be a GOOD thing.

We have created a social construct where people think that if they interact with a minor in any capacity it could mistakenly get them accused of being a pedo or groomer by their peers so it's better to play it safe than sorry and cut them out completely.
In terms of RP, it's also to keep the doors of adult content open without having to worry. Maybe the majority of your RP is SFW but if adult themes come up cohesively, you don't want it to feel awkward.
And then if you want to take your friendship further and hang out outside of RP, you don't want to feel gated by the fact your friend is underaged. It makes sense really but sometimes I feel bad for minors. This game is so heavily 18+ in every possible way that being a minor on this game at all is probably really depressing from their pov. We have created an environment where most minors probably do lie about their age because of this. I mean this in the most realistic way possible. Like, think about it. If they are caught lying, they get blocked. If they are upfront and honest. also blocked. So yeah I do believe most take the road of lying.

[Merrigan]

Ever consider that people just don't want to interact with minors in any capacity lol. I don't either. Why do you think so many people have "21+ only no minors". It's because even in SFW RP they don't want to interact with minors you weirdo. Stop twisting it to be like it's always erp lmao. Adults trying to avoid unnecessary interactions with minors should be a GOOD thing.

ERP aside, why would that be a good thing? I can totally understand not wanting to play with 14-year-olds over a certain age (too much difference), but in this case it's not the "minor" that's the problem, but the age group. There's not much difference between a 21-year-old and an 18-year-old (to tell the truth, the arbitrary limit makes me laugh a little: in my country, 18 is the age of majority). It's an ostracization without any real meaning, other than the desire to protect oneself against certain accusations.

But no, I don't find it at all unhealthy to integrate a younger player into an RP group as long as it's healthy. If the age difference, and therefore the mentality that goes with it, doesn't pose a problem for those involved, it can, on the contrary, provide a framework that is beneficial. Precisely because the adult is aware of the limits to be adopted, and that these will sometimes be crossed less than in a group of teenagers who tend to test the limits of what is acceptable. I'll take just one example from WOW: in my guild at the time, there was a very young 15-year-old player. A typical teenager, a little nervous, in crisis, and very aggressive. Personally, I avoid this type of player in general (I don't have the patience for it), but our guild leader kindly set limits for him, and from what I've seen, this helped turn him into a more respectful player.

[LianaThorne]

ERP aside, why would that be a good thing? I can totally understand not wanting to play with 14-year-olds over a certain age (too much difference), but in this case it's not the "minor" that's the problem, but the age group. There's not much difference between a 21-year-old and an 18-year-old (to tell the truth, the arbitrary limit makes me laugh a little: in my country, 18 is the age of majority). It's an ostracization without any real meaning, other than the desire to protect oneself against certain accusations.

But no, I don't find it at all unhealthy to integrate a younger player into an RP group as long as it's healthy. If the age difference, and therefore the mentality that goes with it, doesn't pose a problem for those involved, it can, on the contrary, provide a framework that is beneficial. Precisely because the adult is aware of the limits to be adopted, and that these will sometimes be crossed less than in a group of teenagers who tend to test the limits of what is acceptable. I'll take just one example from WOW: in my guild at the time, there was a very young 15-year-old player. A typical teenager, a little nervous, in crisis, and very aggressive. Personally, I avoid this type of player in general (I don't have the patience for it), but our guild leader kindly set limits for him, and from what I've seen, this helped turn him into a more respectful player.

Personally, when I was in my early 20s, I didn't find that I had much in common with anyone not in their 20s. Now that I'm in my 30s, I won't really attempt to be friends or further with anyone under the age of 25 because I've found that again, we don't have much in common and are at different stages in life. I don't see any real reason to pursue a online friendship or group that involves teenagers at my age nor do I think it's at all appropriate for a 30+ year old person to want to seek friendship from teenagers lol. It's weird, idk what to tell you. Might be a bit better when they're in the lower range of their 20s to be friendly with an 18 year old but def not their 30s lol.

[Padudu]

ERP aside, why would that be a good thing? I can totally understand not wanting to play with 14-year-olds over a certain age (too much difference), but in this case it's not the "minor" that's the problem, but the age group. There's not much difference between a 21-year-old and an 18-year-old (to tell the truth, the arbitrary limit makes me laugh a little: in my country, 18 is the age of majority). It's an ostracization without any real meaning, other than the desire to protect oneself against certain accusations.

But no, I don't find it at all unhealthy to integrate a younger player into an RP group as long as it's healthy. If the age difference, and therefore the mentality that goes with it, doesn't pose a problem for those involved, it can, on the contrary, provide a framework that is beneficial. Precisely because the adult is aware of the limits to be adopted, and that these will sometimes be crossed less than in a group of teenagers who tend to test the limits of what is acceptable. I'll take just one example from WOW: in my guild at the time, there was a very young 15-year-old player. A typical teenager, a little nervous, in crisis, and very aggressive. Personally, I avoid this type of player in general (I don't have the patience for it), but our guild leader kindly set limits for him, and from what I've seen, this helped turn him into a more respectful player.

Why wouldn't it be a good thing lol, what business does a 25+ year old have with a teen other than playing the game? Ofc like, it's not always avoidable. There might be teens in FCs, parties, events (RP or otherwise) and talking to them on a base level is fine. I've ran events for different games that had minors in it and for the most part people were cool with it and talked to them with respect. Personally, with how FFXIV RP is, people blur the lines FAR too much between friendships, relationships, ect ect. I'm 27, I just don't find it comfortable to RP with a 16 year old, it's weird. Boundaries are ofc fine to teach, but it's not my responsibility beyond being courteous.

[TBerry]

Have any of these people ever tried saying "no", when approached? Or when they are roleplayers, try to solve the situation in character instead of immediately throwing a hissy fit?
Have people tried to... you know, roleplay with anyother character before they just try to godmode their way to ERP? Or stay in-character for more than 5 minutes?
RP on NA servers appears atrocious. Only people who either want to sext or extract Gil from other players.

That being said:
Entering into any RP venue you consent to the possibility that disturbing or sexual scenes may unfold.
On Chaos, it is good practice to inform the player, and said player has to give consent. A good way to do this is to simply write it in the venue description, for example "There might be the chance of your character being pick-pocketed, scammed or otherwise harmed".
Most of the time ERP in public isn't allowed either. So you can't Balmung your way to ERP, but actually have to talk to a character in-character, and see where this goes, then go somewhere else.

[TBerry]

Y'know ... Im done commenting here. So many of you are straight up gaslighting and making stuff up that you're not even worth my time. Behave appropriately in game is literally all people ask and that's met with strawman arguments and harassment. Very few people even attempted to seek a solution that works for all, which was the point. Props to those who did, and to those who came here to argue and be toxic .. I'm starting to think it's you guys who need adult supervision on the internet. Absolutely sickening, immature, obnoxious behavior. You should be ashamed of yourselves and try to grow up. It's clear many of you don't have kids

The thing is, yes, it was, before it was completely derailed from spam problem into "think about the children".
As atrocious as NA RP scene seems to be, you have to ralize that no one is obligated to go to these venues.
Visit at own risk, one could say.

[RitsukoSonoda]

The thing is, yes, it was, before it was completely derailed from spam problem into "think about the children".
As atrocious as NA RP scene seems to be, you have to ralize that no one is obligated to go to these venues.
Visit at own risk, one could say.

It's really not an actual problem at all. The real problem is people that think no one else should be allowed to enjoy something they don't like. On this forum alone are tons of examples of said behavior displaying copious amounts of flawed logic and attempts to weaponize children and disabilities in hopes of getting what they want.

[Stormpeaks]

Y'know ... Im done commenting here. So many of you are straight up gaslighting and making stuff up that you're not even worth my time. Behave appropriately in game is literally all people ask and that's met with strawman arguments and harassment. Very few people even attempted to seek a solution that works for all, which was the point. Props to those who did, and to those who came here to argue and be toxic .. I'm starting to think it's you guys who need adult supervision on the internet. Absolutely sickening, immature, obnoxious behavior. You should be ashamed of yourselves and try to grow up. It's clear many of you don't have kids