RP shout ads are obstructive to chat and gameplay

[AlexiaD]

very long post

tldr

"wont someone think of the children and the new players !!!!!"

[Minali]

tldr

"wont someone think of the children and the new players !!!!!"

Congratulations for entirely missing my points.

[caffe_macchiato]

tldr

"wont someone think of the children and the new players !!!!!"

Very true. Final Fantasy XIV is an adult game, whether people want to admit it or not. There's a reason why Square Enix finds erotic modding acceptable and encourages adult roleplay venues: it keeps people subbed year-round. Plus, people just like cybersex. Everyone in this thread can agree that the "birds and the bees" is natural and healthy because that's how babies are made. So how is FFXIV any different? This is what FFXIV is now and most people are okay with it. Square Enix does a good job of catering to its core audience which is why shout ads are 100% acceptable and encouraged. Why do you think we play this game in the first place?

If you want a more teen-friendly MMO, then World of Warcraft is your option. It looks like a Disney cartoon and doesn't have much erotic activities outside of Moon Guard. Or play any other MMO or online game which is focused on gameplay instead of adult business.

[Bonoki]

Very true. Final Fantasy XIV is an adult game, whether people want to admit it or not. There's a reason why Square Enix finds erotic modding acceptable and encourages adult roleplay venues: it keeps people subbed year-round. Plus, people just like cybersex. Everyone in this thread can agree that the "birds and the bees" is natural and healthy because that's how babies are made. So how is FFXIV any different? This is what FFXIV is now and most people are okay with it. Square Enix does a good job of catering to its core audience which is why shout ads are 100% acceptable and encouraged. Why do you think we play this game in the first place?

If you want a more teen-friendly MMO, then World of Warcraft is your option. It looks like a Disney cartoon and doesn't have much erotic activities outside of Moon Guard. Or play any other MMO or online game which is focused on gameplay instead of adult business.

This way of thinking is incorrect. If that were true, then Minecraft would be an adults game as well by your logic. Games don't become an "adults game" just because adults become the majority of the playerbase and create adult communities. If the actions of the players determined the rating of a game, then everything would be rated Mature. Or should I say, Immature.

[Minali]

Very true. Final Fantasy XIV is an adult game, whether people want to admit it or not. There's a reason why Square Enix finds erotic modding acceptable and encourages adult roleplay venues: it keeps people subbed year-round. Plus, people just like cybersex. Everyone in this thread can agree that the "birds and the bees" is natural and healthy because that's how babies are made. So how is FFXIV any different? This is what FFXIV is now and most people are okay with it. Square Enix does a good job of catering to its core audience which is why shout ads are 100% acceptable and encouraged. Why do you think we play this game in the first place?

If you want a more teen-friendly MMO, then World of Warcraft is your option. It looks like a Disney cartoon and doesn't have much erotic activities outside of Moon Guard. Or play any other MMO or online game which is focused on gameplay instead of adult business.

It's not about what we would like to play or not, it's what crowd SE would like the game to play or not, and considering they are adjusting extra creepy content like that famous transformation scene in early Shb so they don't have to raise the rating up to 18+, minors from age 12 and up are absolutely included. If the game in itself is teen friendly or not is an entirely different conversation, I am sure there are plenty of better options for children than this game. Nevertheless, as long as SE doesn't say "screw it", kicks the rating up to 18 and says "go wild, have fun", they should be interested in at least pretending to care about that part of the player base. And offering a better alternative to public shout chat for venues sounds like something both people wanting to visit venues for mature content and both people who don't want the spam of whatever age would profit from.

[strawberrycake]

Very true. Final Fantasy XIV is an adult game, whether people want to admit it or not. There's a reason why Square Enix finds erotic modding acceptable and encourages adult roleplay venues: it keeps people subbed year-round. Plus, people just like cybersex. Everyone in this thread can agree that the "birds and the bees" is natural and healthy because that's how babies are made. So how is FFXIV any different? This is what FFXIV is now and most people are okay with it. Square Enix does a good job of catering to its core audience which is why shout ads are 100% acceptable and encouraged. Why do you think we play this game in the first place?

If you want a more teen-friendly MMO, then World of Warcraft is your option. It looks like a Disney cartoon and doesn't have much erotic activities outside of Moon Guard. Or play any other MMO or online game which is focused on gameplay instead of adult business.

THis is cap and you know it lmfao. Yoshida doesn't get rid of mods because it requires invasive acts he's not a fan of, and ERP not being an issue is because one cannot rate online interactions and won;t be moderated by the GMs so long as people won't be harmed. The Venue scene is also only big in NA.

Good attempt at mis-information tho!

[Merrigan]

Very true. Final Fantasy XIV is an adult game, whether people want to admit it or not. There's a reason why Square Enix finds erotic modding acceptable and encourages adult roleplay venues: it keeps people subbed year-round. Plus, people just like cybersex. Everyone in this thread can agree that the "birds and the bees" is natural and healthy because that's how babies are made. So how is FFXIV any different? This is what FFXIV is now and most people are okay with it. Square Enix does a good job of catering to its core audience which is why shout ads are 100% acceptable and encouraged. Why do you think we play this game in the first place?

If you want a more teen-friendly MMO, then World of Warcraft is your option. It looks like a Disney cartoon and doesn't have much erotic activities outside of Moon Guard. Or play any other MMO or online game which is focused on gameplay instead of adult business.

The reasoning seems very, very hasty to me. Even if I'm more on the side of those who don't want a ban on ERP.

Knowing how biology works has nothing to do with the current debate: it's the visibility of the thing that poses the problem. I'm well aware that my neighbours are sexually active, but I'd rather not hear about it.

IG sex doesn't produce children, so the "it's healthy because it produces kids" argument is out of date, if not completely beside the point.

Not everyone is "ok" with that. This thread and the many others that have already taken place on the forum prove it. Another thing: cybersex is akin to a form of fetishism. And without placing any particular blame on this practice, it necessarily remains more confidential... So it's potentially more disturbing for those who aren't into it.

And finally, one last thing: adult =/= erotic themes. There are a thousand and one ways of making content mature, and constantly equating sex with maturity is not only reductive... But it's also potentially dangerous for the quality of the content, given the number of low-quality products that have come out recently that use and abuse sex as a pseudo-sign of maturity. The suicide of the general in Garlemald is a mature theme. But sex, knowing that people sometimes indulge in it as young as 12-13? Nope.