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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    In the case of the OP's daughter, we're unfortunately in a grey area: that of the street and any other public space. In fact, in MMORPGs it's even blurrier, because most people don't notice your age. You're just one character among many, averaging between 15 and 30 years of age, with a majority of adults (it seems to me, given the age-related stats of MMORPG players). In this case, there's no magic solution. Either you stand behind your child and check everything that happens... or you accept that an incident (accident?) may occur. If I may make a suggestion, avoiding towns like Limsa may already be a good way forward.

    You can reduce this type of behavior, but in general it can't happen with outright bans that never work. Which can't work for purely technical reasons either, because it's literally impossible to put in a moderator who would check the true age of each player (most minors lie), or ban any approach that's a little too direct from an ERP enthusiast. In FF's case, you'd have to do the following in order:

    - Change the appearance of the characters. As I said above, I'm convinced that there's a link between the sexy miqote and the number of... strange ERPs to be found in the game.
    - Reduce the possibilities for glamour, because clearly bikinis and the like greatly alter the openness at this level.
    - Change the housing, because a system that allows massive meetings can only lead to this type of initiative.
    - Potentially place a limit on IG communications systems.

    And then, yes, maybe: you'll end up limiting this type of behavior because you're blocking all the possibilities that make this type of ERP attractive. You're making the soil infertile. The problem is that all these solutions block a lot of things for those who are adults, and I'm not talking about people who enjoy ERP, but those who keep the game alive in a more interesting way (drama clubs, for example).
    It's sad that adults can't just behave in any enviornment other then IRL with the idea that the law is gonna come down on them hard for being weird around kids. Frankly XIV needs to be better about instilling that fear. Because all of that is literally NOT the point. THe point is that these adults are obviously being creepy, it's not the whole of people who like EPR, or sexual people, is that people aren't staying in the boundaries set.

    So because these boundaries that were set aren't being respected, there needs to be some form of consequence.
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    Last edited by strawberrycake; 02-07-2024 at 11:29 AM.

  2. #112
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    Coming from the same person ignoring the point and assuming all kinds of silly things while making things up and projecting all while attacking my parenting that you have literally no information on ... Nothing you say is worth anything on this topic as you just continue to falsely make accusations and assumptions. Now you state that I ignore the pf based on what? Are you so dense that you can't figure out the fact that sometimes people join PFS that ppl link in shout to take a break from say crafting or they just wanna help someone who's asking for it? You act like that's not allowed because obstruction is priority , you literally can't make sense of anything in this post and only try to cause fights with almost every single thing you say. Just leave this thread since you're nothing but counter productive and obnoxious
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordita View Post
    Coming from the same person ignoring the point and assuming all kinds of silly things while making things up and projecting all while attacking my parenting that you have literally no information on ... Nothing you say is worth anything on this topic as you just continue to falsely make accusations and assumptions. Now you state that I ignore the pf based on what? Are you so dense that you can't figure out the fact that sometimes people join PFS that ppl link in shout to take a break from say crafting or they just wanna help someone who's asking for it? You act like that's not allowed because obstruction is priority , you literally can't make sense of anything in this post and only try to cause fights with almost every single thing you say. Just leave this thread since you're nothing but counter productive and obnoxious
    Cool, so shut me up and post a video of all this shout spam from RP venues.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gordita View Post
    This would be great advice if there were only enough room in the blacklist to accomodate a couple thousand shout runner
    *thousands*, should I make a trip to Halicarnassus and do it myself? On dynamis no less, a DC that's notoriously complained about to be inactive?


    Edit: Nevermind, I'll record it myself. 20 minutes in limsa, I'll post the video of the chat in limsa 30-40 minutes from this post. (OR WHEN YOUTUBE IS DONE UPLOADING)
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    Last edited by Troxbark; 02-07-2024 at 12:28 PM.

  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    Dawg I do not care about Modding in this game, when I said that I meant in the case of there being literal places IRL where you can be as naked and sexual as you want away from Prying eyes in public. Away from people who do not want to see that and away from children. You and so many others are so hyper focused on the game and not ackowledging that others have varying experiences other then your own that you can't see past your own nose.
    Because we're talking about the game and only the game. Any post trying to bring up IRL is completely irrelevant.

    This is like going to the lalafell chair drama (lol) posts and telling players "well just buy a real chair" as tho that has any importance on what's going on in the game. lol
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troxbark View Post
    Because we're talking about the game and only the game. Any post trying to bring up IRL is completely irrelevant.

    This is like going to the lalafell chair drama (lol) posts and telling players "well just buy a real chair" as tho that has any importance on what's going on in the game. lol
    And we live in a society where the rules of the ToS are derived from basic decency and laws and you are a person who is expected to act like an adult living in said society and obey such laws. Because if you get creepy enough online those laws will come down on you with the quickness, so IRL does count.
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  6. #116
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    Ignoring whatever you guys are going on about.
    The issue with potentially making a seperate tab for venues is that venues are community created content. If they make a tab specifically for them, they would need a hard definition of what it is and I highly doubt they would do that since it's not them who made it. Since the definition is essentially open to the community's interpretation as it is right now.
    And that's not counting the follow up of other communities wanting their own tab if venues get one.
    I approve of how it is right now. All community created content falls into other.

    Also you say ads are being spammed. I think SE would need to come out and say what constitutes as spam. Multiple people advertising different venues is not spam imo. The same person putting up their ad over and over again yes.

    Dunno if anyone else suggested this cuz I'm not reading all pages of this but, you can just put your shout chat on a seperate tab.
    That way you can just tab over whenever you wanna see the shouts.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troxbark View Post
    Cool, so shut me up and post a video of all this shout spam from RP venues.



    *thousands*, should I make a trip to Halicarnassus and do it myself? On dynamis no less, a DC that's notoriously complained about to be inactive?


    Edit: Nevermind, I'll record it myself. 20 minutes in limsa, I'll post the video of the chat in limsa 30-40 minutes from this post.
    You're literally as brainless as the person searching for courtesan in the tos
    IM gOiNg tO a DeAd sErVeR tO rEcOrD hOw DeAd iT iS tO sOmEhOw vAlIdAtE aNd jUsTiFy HaRaSsmEnT aNd GaSlIgHtInG
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  8. #118
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    Sometimes I like to post a fake RP venue shout just to open the flood gates, because as soon as one person shouts their venue the others soon follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrj View Post
    Sometimes I like to post a fake RP venue shout just to open the flood gates, because as soon as one person shouts their venue the others soon follow.
    That's honestly hilarious and very much true. You see one advertisement then you see three others come in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    Ignoring whatever you guys are going on about.
    The issue with potentially making a seperate tab for venues is that venues are community created content. If they make a tab specifically for them, they would need a hard definition of what it is and I highly doubt they would do that since it's not them who made it. Since the definition is essentially open to the community's interpretation as it is right now.
    And that's not counting the follow up of other communities wanting their own tab if venues get one.
    I approve of how it is right now. All community created content falls into other.

    Also you say ads are being spammed. I think SE would need to come out and say what constitutes as spam. Multiple people advertising different venues is not spam imo. The same person putting up their ad over and over again yes.

    Dunno if anyone else suggested this cuz I'm not reading all pages of this but, you can just put your shout chat on a seperate tab.
    That way you can just tab over whenever you wanna see the shouts.
    This is mostly why I didn't touch on the subject because I don't see much being done about it. The advertisers would just post in every avenue available to them. I mean they put PF after PF and it can be a little obnoxious when trying to find content you want to run.
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