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  1. #281
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    Quote Originally Posted by PSxpert2011 View Post
    Well 's that's right, I had to write something crazy down...



    Wow I know 'MAN', it is a game so nbd. I did my best to voice my opinion and not disrespecting anyone. Just because someone doesn't favor anything 'gay' and supports 'traditional' marriage, doesn't mean "HATE".
    I guess if I think is wrong to have 'that' in a video game, I'm the one that's crazy and shouldn't ever speak. It's cool! I'm not the one preaching hate.
    Ur a homophobe and so is SE... *Sarcasm*
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  2. #282
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    Been a while since I checked in on this thread.
    So are we getting weddings or not?

    I don't really care about who wants them.

    >_> this was a nice thread, then it had to get all political.
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  3. #283
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    Ahh ignore list~ Full of haters/anti-equality peeps. I don't have to even see this infuriating BS anymore.

    Kinseykinz, well said. <3 ^^
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    Last edited by Nabiri; 07-17-2012 at 03:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirOleas View Post
    Been a while since I checked in on this thread.
    So are we getting weddings or not?

    I don't really care about who wants them.

    >_> this was a nice thread, then it had to get all political.
    not confirmed but hinted at
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
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    Quote Originally Posted by PSxpert2011 View Post
    I don't really care for gay-marriage IRL (or in-game), leave it out of Final Fantasy. I respect people life-styles but I respect traditional man & woman marriages more. Just like no hints of polygamy or human trafficking(maybe references to slavery).

    We know it exist IRL: Just like (we don't want to see) corporates buying-out our national parks, landmarks to build roads and new condos for an excuse for local strip-clubs, we just don't want to see that in-game. People just need to differentiate personal taste and respect what is the norm.
    First off, in regards to traditional man and woman marriages... in many parts of the world, polygamy is traditional.

    Secondly, gay relationships are also normal, even if it's at a lower rate than straight marriages. Would you call green eyes normal? Only 1-2% of people in the world have them. That's actually a lower % than there are homosexuals by some studies (roughly .5 to 10% depending on study).

    Not only that, roughly 1,500 species of animals so far have been documented as demonstrating homosexual behavior. It's found all over nature, from birds (birds are actually quite big offenders here <_< ), mammals such as horses, dogs, cats, and goats, even insects. In fact, i even wound up having a Dalmatian lyretail molly (type of fish) that was male, and exclusively chased and tried to breed with the other male mollies.

    If you truly respected other people's life styles, you wouldn't be trying to restrict them when their choices have no impact on you other than "offending" your "moral sensibilities". I'm sorry, but when rules have to be laid down, morality should have no place in the law making process. This is because morals, while everyone considers them important, are different for everyone. What you view as normal and traditional is not everyone else's idea of normal and traditional. That is why laws should only be made in respect to whether anyone would be physically or mentally harmed. (I'm talking about rape, constant verbal abuse, that sort of thing. not "eewww two guys are kissing, gross!")

    So in reality, all of us really are trying to respect what is the norm, and that includes homosexual relationships as well as straight ones.

    Final fantasy may be a game that's highly idealistic, but one thing's for sure, it's always taught good morals, such as love conquers all, and personal growth. One example was in FFX, where Wakka initially hated the al bhed and machina with a passion, before he met Rikku and saw their side of the story. He learned that they were people, just like him, and that the machina they used were just tools, ones that could be used for good or for bad.

    If SE doesn't allow for same sex marriages in this game, i'd personally be pretty disappointed. Seeing their company cave in to politics would be betraying the spirit of what made this series so magical: that love really does conquer all, and that as people live their lives, they learn more of the world and people around them, learning to accept we are all different, and that those differences make the world wonderful.

    Why do you think the crystals factor so heavily in these games? Enormous and beautiful, sentient and emitting a many colored light, they banish the darkness. I personally view the crystals as representing life and existence, with countless facets reflecting infinite shades of light and life. But even though each light and facet is different, they all have the same source of life and love.

    I hope that you too, will live your life, learning and growing stronger and more accepting of others. The world could use a little more final fantasy and a little less of hatred.
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    the game don't need weddings in my opinion. just keep it out of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    First off, in regards to traditional man and woman marriages... in many parts of the world, polygamy is traditional.

    ...

    I hope that you too, will live your life, learning and growing stronger and more accepting of others. The world could use a little more final fantasy and a little less of hatred.
    If they add it, they'll add it.

    _It's not going to make me stop playing Final Fantasy 14 because the MMO offers more. I'm not going to repeat my standing on this issue because someone wants to call me "homophobe" and such. It still would be cool to have some that caters to partners who do quest, leves and exp together all the time(granting them bonuses and increasing drop rates). This way everyone is happy while putting political and socialism aside. It's "High Fantasy" supposedly, the power in in the DEV team & SE corporates.

    My opinions are my own but I'm actually part of a LS: http://www.lux-nocturna.org/?i=roster of Gungnir and it doesn't mean I'm 'that' kind of person/player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    If they just put stuff in there for "marriages" (ie gowns, suits, rings, empty gathering halls, etc..) and let players do what they want with it, that's the best way to handle it. The game shouldn't have any official recognition of marriage, and it shouldn't provide any benefit in-game either.

    After all, MMO "marriage" is silly when you think about it... its just a BFF ceremony with some window dressing.
    That is exactly what SE should do. 'sides, no one would be missing out on anything to begin with unless you really enjoy such terrible corny dialog that a mere child would put together.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tricksy View Post
    For some reason I thought Japan would be socially liberal. They seem so progressive in nature. Or maybe its these damn bath salts again...
    Generally, the Japanese people are progressive themselves. The government, not so much (and why there is tentacle rape to begin with).

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Now imagine how unfair it would have felt if SE didn't even let you select which gender to play
    And how unfair it'd be to restrict your gender to only playing your gender's traditional classes (female wanting to play tank/melee? no will do! male wanting to heal? sorry but your gender can only play these classes, you could always just not play after all!).
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  9. #289
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    SE needs to stop this negativity and just announce if this game is for everyone or not.
    I get to look at that homophobic attitude 24/7 in real life and there's no way in hell I'd pay monthly fee to endure that in a FF world.
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    I don't want marriage in game anymore after going through this thread.

    lol
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