In-game marriage, will it make a return?

[Duelle]

Curious about that. Which quest? Maybe I just skipped dialogs :|

I think it's the love potion/soup quest in Limsa. Though I always thought the questgiver was referring to a male lalafell.

It's still less disturbing than that "Roegadyn loves oppo oppos" quest.

[Mirage]

That awkward moment when you as a dude picked a girl and so did your girlfriend...

It's not really same sex marriage, but it would be in game.

I'd be pretty sad in this circumstance if I couldn't get married in game to the person I want just because I chose a girl character.

Guess I know how LGBT people must feel now.

Now imagine how unfair it would have felt if SE didn't even let you select which gender to play ;)

[Rannie]

This is a fine idea if SE can not or will not include all desired coupling. Allow they players to run the shows and give them the tools and resources to make it happen. Add an church organ and allow a player to manipulate it. Give crafters a hand in facilitating the items. Including Western and Eastern theme marriage items.

Also add some "effects" control box to have someone supply graphical effetcs during the wedding. And perhaps supply some 2 person Emotes capable of being used in the cathedral.

If there are enough ways and options for players to team up and supply an ecellent wedding you may soon see...

"Viri's Vows" Wedding planning group.

Book your upcomming wedding now!

Priestess Viritess Vonschalt looks forward to join you both in holy matrimony!

do fellow ls mates get discounts or get to help with it?

[Rannie]

Problem with this is, they also have to make changes based on their country.

SE had to end the Mog Bonanza due to European and/Canadian gambling laws. While gambling in Japan isn't THAT taboo (Pachinko for example) going international, they just can't do it. So while they need to "cater to everyone they support" their dev team and primary holders are in Japan, they're based in Japan and have to abide by Japanese rules, much like Blizzard has to abide by American laws even if they have support in other countries.

I've been thinking about this for a while... actually SE didn't end Mog bonanza

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/gui...bon/index.html

As a matter of fact they had one just this year...

ahhh never mind just got more information this year was the last one they are holding due to the laws I correct myself on it.

however, though if I may point out one tiny little thing. that didn't stop SE from putting in Serendipity into FFXIII-2 Which has gambling in it.

[Alteiriaa]

This is a fine idea if SE can not or will not include all desired coupling. Allow they players to run the shows and give them the tools and resources to make it happen. Add an church organ and allow a player to manipulate it. Give crafters a hand in facilitating the items. Including Western and Eastern theme marriage items.

Also add some "effects" control box to have someone supply graphical effetcs during the wedding. And perhaps supply some 2 person Emotes capable of being used in the cathedral.

If there are enough ways and options for players to team up and supply an ecellent wedding you may soon see...

"Viri's Vows" Wedding planning group.

Book your upcomming wedding now!

Priestess Viritess Vonschalt looks forward to join you both in holy matrimony!

I'm all for this. Heck, I'd help out even, if you'd have me, haha!

And wow, all the people complaining about Japan not supporting the gay, even Squeenix has precident on characters that are gay in other games iirc.
(Then again though, the info I found relating to that was on the internet and we know how info-gets on the net work. I fully understand that I may be completely wrong. But even that said, there have really been enough gay characters from OTHER companies in Japan, not just in videogames but in all other media. IT'S A GAME. It doesn't have anything to do with outward laws, unless the outward laws explicetly state that no homo allowed ever. And you can't tell me Japan has a law like this, if it does I would like to read it. :P
All this said though--)

I'm good for either way, GM or Player set up weddings. Player set up ones would go conciderably faster, if nothing else. It would be cool to be able to hold the main cerimony where ever, or hold the cerimony in the cathedral and then move the party onward, as it were, to a area with a lot of meaning to the character's relationship. Or, ya know, move on to mass murdering monsters in full wedding get-up. XD
I like the idea of helping others with their weddings or civilish unions or whatever you wanna call them, if they were even willing to have me involved, haha!

[Tricksy]

Now imagine how unfair it would have felt if SE didn't even let you select which gender to play

/Cheer


Too true

[Rutelor]

Your love and your party better be strong as the cathedral may be overrun by level 90+ mobs. After clearing the area, you'll want to marry whoever is next you , gay or not lol.

That's an idea! :-D

[Rannie]

If they do have an in-game mechanic for marriage, and they allow same sex couples to take part, then I'd be over the moon. One of the things that irks me about Japanese culture is the fact that they seem to ignore LGBT rights for the most part, especially when it comes to marriage. (Fortunately, the Japanese aren't backwards enough to have widespread discrimination on this front, so it could really be a lot worse.) This is why I don't hold much hope for gay marriage in FFXIV.

What I imagine they'll end up doing is just leaving the cathedral open for anyone to do any kind of ceremony for whatever reason. This allows people to be able to orchestrate their own gay marriages, and it would free Squeenix from any (albeit unjustified) repercussions they might face for officially sanctioning gay marriages. From a business standpoint, it's a win-win that has almost no risk, and you can almost always trust a business like Squeenix to go with the less risky solution.

Sorry re reading threads too. Also they don't have to call it "Marriage" either it could be bonding or whatever else they wanna call it ^_^ just another idea on it.

[Kinseykinz]

As others have said, an in game girl-girl or guy-guy marriage isn't really real. Sure the real people behind the characters *might* be girl-girl or guy-guy...they might even be gay...who cares. But most are real life girl-guy couples who just want to share that bond in-game. I am in a linkshell with several couples such as this atm. (what is with the kitty-couples :P) So, even if it is true that Japanese society is a little apprehensive about same-sex relationships/marriage, I think even SE can support this type of union in game as again, it IS NOT REAL. No one should care who my lala marries...it's pretend.

That being said, the game already has some storylines that are at least bi-sexual if not gay in theme. SE could have written the CUL storyline any the way they wanted for example, yet, well there's some interesting plot twists and love triangles involved in it. So while yes, it might be too early to say for certain that we can attend the Roe wedding of Gary and Steve, I just don't see it being as far-fetched as some think...especially when you consider some of the storylines and plot points already included in the game.

However, if SE DOES decide boy-girl weddings only, then it would be SUPER NICE if they at least told the playerbase that pre-2.0 as we are able to change our characters then anyway. It would still leave out those who really wish to be same-gender couples...but would allow real life married couples (boy-girl) who rolled same sex characters in game to at least modify their characters to get married etc.

[Kyuuen]

Alright, I'm honestly getting sick of the "it's against the law/unsupported by the law" excuses that keep getting thrown around.

Articles 731-737 of the Japanese Civil Code restrict marriage to opposite-sex unions. Same-sex couples are not able to marry, and same-sex couples are not granted rights derived from marriage. Also same-sex marriages performed abroad are not legally recognized in Japan and bi-national same-sex couples cannot obtain a visa for the foreign partner based on their relationship.[10]

In March 2009 Japan Today reported that the Justice Ministry plans to allow Japanese nationals to marry same-sex partners in countries where same-sex marriage is legal. The ministry will issue certificates necessary for such marriage of Japanese citizens and foreigners, the sources said, adding the ministry will soon convey the decision to its legal affairs bureaus across the nation, the sources said. Though the marriage will not necessarily be legally recognised within Japan, allowing its citizens to marry same-sex partners overseas is seen by some as a first step toward eventual legalization of gay marriage in Japan.[11] Also, should this law pass, Japan would be the first Asian country in modern history to legally allow same-sex marriage within its borders.

In the meantime, Japan does have a form of domestic partnership (DP) for same-sex couples. The DP, known as KOUSEISHOUSHO (公正書証) gives many if not most of the rights of married couples, including inheritance and rights to assets of the other partner, the right to full knowledge of the medical condition of the other partner, including medical consultations, nursing care, hospital visits, and rights to healthcare proxy (in the case where one partner is unable to make decisions for his/herself), among other things. (from the book on same-sex parternship in Japan 「同性パートナー生活読本」(http://webcatplus.nii.ac.jp/webcatpl...k/6980828.html) by Nagayasu Shibun 3/2/3003 Published by Ryokufuku Publishing, Tokyo (http://www.ryokufu.com/top.html)

FYI: Unrecognized =/= against the law. Simply put they just don't view your certificate of marriage as legal. Meaning there is no rules against it showing up in the game.