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    My point is that on this subject you can't really apply real laws to a fake marriage. If I were I hold a personal ceremony with someone of the same sex and declare myself married I wouldn't legally be married and nothing I'be done is technically illegal. You can't apply real world marriage laws to a virtual marriage that is not legal.

    I'd agree with others in this thread that they should simply not make any of it gender specific. Neglecting to restrict it isn't the same as supporting it so I think SE could get away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    My point is that on this subject you can't really apply real laws to a fake marriage. If I were I hold a personal ceremony with someone of the same sex and declare myself married I wouldn't legally be married and nothing I'be done is technically illegal. You can't apply real world marriage laws to a virtual marriage that is not legal.

    I'd agree with others in this thread that they should simply not make any of it gender specific. Neglecting to restrict it isn't the same as supporting it so I think SE could get away with it.
    A person can be smart enough to distinguish fiction from reality.

    People, on the other hand, are stupid enough to apply their real life morals and situations on fictional content. That's where you get idiotic things like the Christopher Handley trial and verdict. They just have a real hard time making the distinction for some reason. I don't think SE should push their luck with this topic, as they're already taking enough risks with XIV as it is.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    A person can be smart enough to distinguish fiction from reality.

    People, on the other hand, are stupid enough to apply their real life morals and situations on fictional content. That's where you get idiotic things like the Christopher Handley trial and verdict. They just have a real hard time making the distinction for some reason. I don't think SE should push their luck with this topic, as they're already taking enough risks with XIV as it is.
    We'll just have to wait and see I guess. There are certainly reasons it may or may not be included, I just think bringing up Japanese laws is silly. It may possibly have some influence though I suppose.

    They're going to get some backlash no matter what they do, however I think not including same sex marriage would cause more backlash from the non-gaming communities as opposed to the people who might actually ever play FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    I think I see what you did there or i'm looking into it too much =P

    took me a while looking at it but I think i see...
    There's absolutely nothing hidden in this message.

    Gosh it got deleted! Sorry for this offense CMs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    My point is that on this subject you can't really apply real laws to a fake marriage.
    You can't apply real laws in a video game, but you can apply rules and regulations set by the country you're doing business with. If that country has certain rules against x, guess what your responsibility is?

    It's how the real world works, even for entertainment. Did you really think developers just simply don't do certain things because they didn't think of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    My point is that on this subject you can't really apply real laws to a fake marriage. If I were I hold a personal ceremony with someone of the same sex and declare myself married I wouldn't legally be married and nothing I'be done is technically illegal. You can't apply real world marriage laws to a virtual marriage that is not legal.

    I'd agree with others in this thread that they should simply not make any of it gender specific. Neglecting to restrict it isn't the same as supporting it so I think SE could get away with it.
    You may not apply real laws to something fake but the video game itself is not fake. It is a real product based in Japan and servers are in Japan and as we was talking about before they are more against homosexual marriages than they are for it. Certain rules still apply and it may be against those rules for them to implement something like that in their game and give support to it. As I said this may or may not be the case I am speculating based on other facts and very real possibilities.

    Though the loophole to that would be as simple as I have said before. Give us the means to make weddings happen, clothes, rings, bells and the whistles. Then let the player control it without them interfering.

    Again I reiterate is they may possibly have some type of legal reasons they are not allowed to push same sex marriages in their games, whether you think it is fair or not. This may or may not be the case because I am speculating due to related facts from multiple sources. I may be wrong and it may be something as simple as they don't agree with your out look on it and have put their foot down to it. Though unless otherwise specified I cannot say that is the case either.
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