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    Another line that should be drawn, by the way, is the differentiating one between competitiveness in the open world and griefing practices. Competing for prey has, in my experience and that of many others, increased the excitement of the open-world environment, whereas deviousness of purpose, and the intent of reducing the effort you and your linkshell invest, at the expense of my work and the effort of my linkshell, are a completely different category of things.
    I'll concede that difference.

    If there is more depth to the pursuit than simply being the first one mashing a button on when the monster appears right in front of your face I might actually want to be involved in it.

    Though the concept of being pulled into an instance once getting claim might still exist. Honestly that seems to be what's happening with the Primals you can tame. I'm kinda ok with that because Primals are a unique experience that I would prefer to remain instance-styled. Ifrit can't really threaten you with it's charge ability if you can just move out of it's effective ring of range.

    And imagine the collateral damage if Garuda was fought by a nearby lowbie camp?

    ... wait...

    Ok. Yeah. I'd want to see that carnage. I hope they at least get to see a bit of it in Frontlines.

    Still, I don't begrudge the decision made to keep the Primal fights more arena based.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    I'll concede that difference.

    If there is more depth to the pursuit than simply being the first one mashing a button on when the monster appears right in front of your face I might actually want to be involved in it.

    Though the concept of being pulled into an instance once getting claim might still exist. Honestly that seems to be what's happening with the Primals you can tame. I'm kinda ok with that because Primals are a unique experience that I would prefer to remain instance-styled. Ifrit can't really threaten you with it's charge ability if you can just move out of it's effective ring of range.

    And imagine the collateral damage if Garuda was fought by a nearby lowbie camp?

    ... wait...

    Ok. Yeah. I'd want to see that carnage. I hope they at least get to see a bit of it in Frontlines.

    Still, I don't begrudge the decision made to keep the Primal fights more arena based.
    They could make the arena there, as I said before. Ifrit can spawn a bowl of embers. Garuda a tonrado, moogle, idk tons of moogles. Also if you are to close to it you will die(on the outside). The battlefield will change, it would be amazing, it would still keep that instanced feel but it will be open world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    They could make the arena there, as I said before. Ifrit can spawn a bowl of embers. Garuda a tonrado, moogle, idk tons of moogles. Also if you are to close to it you will die(on the outside). The battlefield will change, it would be amazing, it would still keep that instanced feel but it will be open world.
    I'll agree with Rok on this one. (!) I think a circular boundary could be suddenly drawn and, out of nowhere, a fiery circle could appear; then, only those in the party that claimed would be allowed to stay within, while all the rest would have to rush out or die. Now, that would be a real Burning Circle Notorious Monster!
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    Last edited by Rutelor; 07-15-2012 at 02:36 PM.

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    They could make the arena there, as I said before. Ifrit can spawn a bowl of embers. Garuda a tonrado, moogle, idk tons of moogles. Also if you are to close to it you will die(on the outside). The battlefield will change, it would be amazing, it would still keep that instanced feel but it will be open world.
    I won't lie, I wouldn't mind being able to witness someone's Garuda run in the game, rather than on You-Tube.

    Maybe it can happen in the future, but I'm not expecting it for 2.0. Something like that would take some work and time, and I would like to have some unique fights in the open world, rather than just rehash instance like ones to be visible in the open world.

    It'd be nice, but not a priority.
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    They should just follow Runescape's lead with grief, it handled it pretty well. 9/10ths of the game is a mildly competitive borefest with no player-to-player interaction and the rest is an terror-filled wasteland with anything-goes rules. The players who like everything to be 'fair' can rest assured that they aren't missing anything because most of the content is in their territory. There's a little bit of something for everyone.
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    Ha, good concept.

    Again, I woulden't be opposed to it happening like that, though they would have to make those 'claim' spots in areas with enough space to host those fights, which might limit the amount of locations those could spawn.

    Perhaps they can alternate between the two ideas. In certain, less open locations, your party gets sucked into an instance. In more open locations, the 'burning circle' opens up and threatens to wipe those who couldn't claim. That would most definitely keep the content varied and interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutelor View Post
    I'll agree with Rok on this one. (!) I think a circular boundary could be suddenly drawn and, out of nowhere, a fiery circle could appear; then, only those in the party that claimed would be allowed to stay within, while all the rest would have to rush out or die. Now, that would be a real Burning Circle Notorious Monster!
    Please be more understanding with the poor guy sitting around there, who's trying to synthesize one of the best pieces of craftsmanship he has ever made.

    Are you really prone to kill him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emulord View Post
    Please be more understanding with the poor guy sitting around there, who's trying to synthesize one of the best pieces of craftsmanship he has ever made.

    Are you really prone to kill him?
    Oh, for sure he or she won't be casually sitting in the middle of the open world of my imagination! :-p
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