Moogle Treasure Trove: Weekly & Minimog: Please assign by MSQ progress!

[CaptainLagbeard]

It would need to be by unlocks and not by msq. Eden per example isn't part of the msq.
But yeah they really should figure out a way to do it sooner than later.

Well you can do Eden 1-8 immediately after you beat Hades and finish the quest Shadowbringers, and 9-12 should be available after Seat of Sacrifice and relevant MSQ... With MSQ progression, it'd be more based on what you CAN unlock.

[Minali]

Well you can do Eden 1-8 immediately after you beat Hades and finish the quest Shadowbringers, and 9-12 should be available after Seat of Sacrifice and relevant MSQ... With MSQ progression, it'd be more based on what you CAN unlock.

Indeed. It's ok (and maybe even the point) to give people an extra reason to unlock side content. This side content should just be within reasonable reach and that's what tying it to MSQ progress would be good for.

[Thurmnmurmn]

Well you can do Eden 1-8 immediately after you beat Hades and finish the quest Shadowbringers, and 9-12 should be available after Seat of Sacrifice and relevant MSQ... With MSQ progression, it'd be more based on what you CAN unlock.

True but I'm thinking more of making it an equal outcome for everyone.
Everyone should have whatever challenge they get be accessible already.

[CaptainLagbeard]

True but I'm thinking more of making it an equal outcome for everyone.
Everyone should have whatever challenge they get be accessible already.

If it is something that the player can unlock and go do, it is reasonable for being on the weekly mogstone challenge. The problem it currently has is that it can give someone still doing ARR something from all the way in ShB, which they can't even unlock if they wanted to.

[Mel0hDee]

Four weeks of not being able to do the weekly on my Alt.

[NobleJanobii]

Just coming in to add that this is still a problem in the second round. I have two alts who are in Heavensward. One alt has not been able to do any of the weekly mog challenges thus far because all three of his weekly challenges have been the Ivalice raids: see here. The other alt has only been able to do one so far, but was unable to do the first week or this week because their weekly challenges were Ivalice and the Four Lords: see here and here. And here's another alt who is in Post-ARR who hasn't been able to do any weeklies because once again, all tied to Four Lord and Ivalice content, see here: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...fbc42f0c66195&

These alts are nowhere close to being able to unlock any of these raids MSQ progress wise, as they would require me to complete Heavensward and Stormblood to unlock. And while you could say 'just grind the tomes on your main and trade whatever item it is to your alt', several items on the list such as the Ala Mhigan barding are not tradeable, so that's not a viable solution. Thus, I am all for tweaking the system to limit the weekly mog challenge based on MSQ progression! It would make the system a lot more newbie and alt friendly overall. Thank you!

[CamuiKushi]

Honestly I haven't been able to do almost all my weeklies on my alt. The organisation of the whole event feels very confused. On my main I have absolutely zero need for any of the rewards available and on my alt I can't even do the most rewarding tasks.
While I'm complaining, Wonderous Tails is also still giving tasks that haven't been unlocked even though I thought they changed this???

[Supersnow845]

I don’t see why they should change it

The treasure troves are designed to fill the queues of lesser completed content during the lull and you are awarded old items for it (why they always put the MSQ roulette into it I have no idea)

If you can’t fill those queues you are proverbially useless to the system. If you have alts in HW or early SB nothing you have unlocked needs help being popped so the system “doesn’t see a need” to reward you for it

[vetch]

I don’t see why they should change it

The treasure troves are designed to fill the queues of lesser completed content during the lull and you are awarded old items for it (why they always put the MSQ roulette into it I have no idea)

If you can’t fill those queues you are proverbially useless to the system. If you have alts in HW or early SB nothing you have unlocked needs help being popped so the system “doesn’t see a need” to reward you for it

Systems should serve people, not the other way around.

ARR players queueing for ARR duties doesn't deprive ShB queues of players because ARR players were never in the pool for ShB queues to begin with, and it makes the ARR players happy because they get to feel like they're participating in the event and earning rewards. It's only when ShB players are incentivized to queue for ARR duties that ShB queues can conceivably suffer, but targeting the mogweeklies at one's MSQ progress solves that too.

It's a no-brainer.

[NobleJanobii]

I don’t see why they should change it

The treasure troves are designed to fill the queues of lesser completed content during the lull and you are awarded old items for it (why they always put the MSQ roulette into it I have no idea)

If you can’t fill those queues you are proverbially useless to the system. If you have alts in HW or early SB nothing you have unlocked needs help being popped so the system “doesn’t see a need” to reward you for it

Because players who aren't to those points in the game yet are still going to want those rewards. Sure most of the rewards can be obtained through other means but certain rewards like the Carbuncle earrings are tome event exclusive and not tradeable. My first tome event happened while I was still in Post-ARR and I grinded in Praetorium for DAYS to get the tomes necessary to get the 100 tome reward from that event. And when the best option is grinding Praetorium for tomes, it just seems like a no brainer to alter the system such that they're able to actually make use of the Mogpendium. Save them a run or two, what's the harm?

Like vetch says, it doesn't deprive the other players of queues for the Four Lords or Ivalice raids, because characters who aren't there MSQ wise yet, alt or main, wouldn't have been in the pool for those queues anyway. It just makes it to where characters aren't locked out of these rewards and actively punished for having not made it to that point in MSQ yet.