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    SargeTheSeagull's Avatar
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    Rad Calidum
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    Ultros
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    How would you like an open world PvP zone?

    A lot of older MMOs have open world PvP. This idea on its own wouldn't work very well in 14 for about a dozen different reasons.
    BUT! What about a dedicated zone for open world PvP? Imagine it works sorta like eureka. This zone has tons of things to do and quests and rewards etc. but you have access to your pvp kit and every now and then an event will kick off that grants extra rewards for pvping. Maybe even you can challenge other players to duals. Perhaps the zone gives armor and accessories that boost your stats when dueling other players. Thoughts?
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    Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Jessa Marko
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    Quote Originally Posted by SargeTheSeagull View Post
    A lot of older MMOs have open world PvP. This idea on its own wouldn't work very well in 14 for about a dozen different reasons.
    BUT! What about a dedicated zone for open world PvP? Imagine it works sorta like eureka. This zone has tons of things to do and quests and rewards etc. but you have access to your pvp kit and every now and then an event will kick off that grants extra rewards for pvping. Maybe even you can challenge other players to duals. Perhaps the zone gives armor and accessories that boost your stats when dueling other players. Thoughts?
    I think you're suggesting it'd have to be instanced but accessible in a different way to the wolves' den? I'd be in favor of it.
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    Jumpshot Tryhard
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    No thanks. I remember how people grief other people's alts in warcraft. I would get on my feral druid, go stealth, and wait for that sucker to be lowered to half health by the alts, Then pop all of my cool down to melt that sucker. The emote to spit on their body and go play other game
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    Jordan Lore
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    Edwin Vancleef
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    Open world PvP would not fit well into FFXIV, and its sensitive fragile community that can barely handle PvP as it is. Don't mistake me as saying I wouldn't like such a zone. I'm toxic and I'd love to have a zone like this implemented for my own amusement.

    WoW open world PvP worked for a variety of reasons, mainly that it was built around faction based PvP from the start. XIV has badly implemented PvP, bad netcode, and devs who don't understand PvP at a fundamental level and refuse to acknowledge the communities most basic concerns. The zone just wouldn't work without a serious PvP dev team being hired on.
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Only and only if the duels are like in wolfsden pier: you can decline always.

    I'm not interested in getting killed randomly when i try to do literally anything else.
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    Last edited by Burmecia; 01-29-2024 at 08:23 AM.

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    Alinne Seamont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burmecia View Post
    Only and only if the duels are like in wolfsden pier: you can decline always.

    I'm not interested in getting killed randomly when i try to do literally anything else.
    That's not what I would expect in an instanced zone. I'd expect that by entering, you've agreed to PvP, and can only leave if you aren't engaged in PvP.
    You might see a message upon entry along the lines of " this is an OW PvP zone. By clicking "Yes" you agree to participate in PvP. You cannot leave the zone while engaged in PvP"

    In some games (not all) that are designed with OW PvP in mind, you can set a flag for PvP. In others, there is no such thing, everyone is fair game, however there may be some safe (no PvP) zones.

    In other words, while in that zone
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    Kokoro Liliro
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    A zone where you could join a faction and then go out and fight PvE mobs for loot you have to carry back to base but can be jumped on by another faction trying to steal your goods would be really fun. Or capturing and holding forts like in DAOC or GW2's WvW mode or WoW's Wintergrasp/Alterac Valley maps. Though as Archeron said, Square would need to become serious about PvP.
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    Khlea Elakha
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    Open world pvp would be amazing, alas as shown by some of the replies above, MMO players are pathologically unable to comprehend the whole concept and always end up thinking that emergent, spontaneous pvp constitutes griefing.
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    Taemin Hale
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    Malboro
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I would love this D: Aion had that zone with the forts just do something simialar but make it noticeable that you are flagging for pvp if you enter this area.
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