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    Player Mithron's Avatar
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    Mithron Scarlet
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    You could say this about 90% of the content they put you in via that roulette.
    That's fine. Just take out the two MSQ cutscene ones. We already have MSQ roulette for those players.

    Some of my favorite memories is coaching a bunch of Green Leafs through ARR extreme trials in Mentor roulette, and they love the game far more afterwards once they "get" how slightly harder content and mechanics work. There's also been several dungeons I'm Mentoring with a bunch of Green Leafs and I'm the only one saving them from wipes with my Raises, heals, good damage or tanking.
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    Asako's Avatar
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    Asako Natsume
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    Lich
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    Give me as many Extreme Trials as possible. I am all about that life. Although I take whatever comes up no matter how annoying it is. Get it into ya.
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    Harunah Fae
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 50
    better idea,revamp the whole damn MSQ roulette not add or change dungeons...

    and let us skip cutscenes,like ....i fully truly dont get the idea behind Non-skippable cutscenes in the first place
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    why is WoW living rent free inside your heads?

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    Marshmallow Puff
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by keichirou View Post
    better idea,revamp the whole damn MSQ roulette not add or change dungeons...

    and let us skip cutscenes,like ....i fully truly dont get the idea behind Non-skippable cutscenes in the first place
    As others have said, cutscenes are unskippable for a reason. People should learn to just relax. When I get Prae, I just pop something on my other monitor to read or watch or find another side activity (even worked on my taxes in the previous version of Prae).

    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    They should just do away with the mentor roulette. They don't need any help with how easy duties is now.
    You don't seem to understand the main objective of mentor roulette which is about filling any DF that needs filling.

    When we queue for mentor roulette, we accept to be dispatched whereever a body is needed irrespective of the experience of the person who queued. Sometimes even more than one mentor is sent to the same duty. It’s there so players who queue for a duty don’t end up waiting forever. If people have time to do things such as an ex with new players, or something like Copied Factory or Thaleia MSQ, there is time for MSQ too. Is it exiting? No but many other things aren’t. I got 10 Guildhests in a row the other day (there was another mentor too) as 2 people were doing their weekly challenge log and we just happened to be the next two warm bodies. It felt like being trapped in the Groundhog Day movie. Normally, Mentor roulette gives me a wide array of duties and that’s why I like it. It’s be nice if it could reward the daily tomes for the normal roulettes if you do a corresponding duty (like if you get an AR, you get AR roulette tomes if you haven’t done it already but it’s not such a big deal). I get Prae not even 2% of the time with mentor roulette

    The teaching part in mentor roulette is pretty much limited to extremes if they pop. Other than that it’s occasionally mentioning to do jobs quests when there is no job crystal at a certain level or explaining that the big orange marker is a stack marker and pretty much any other player can explain that too just as well. It’s not the place nor the time to talk about rotations. Guidance is mostly outside roulettes and it is mostly basic questions like where can I find or get something.

    As for new players queuing for ARR extremes, the way the quests are introduced makes them feel seamless and natural progression. Once Titan hard which is part of MSQ has been completed, there is yet another duty with a blue marker to pick up at the Waking Sands and it happens to be Garuda ex. The same goes for other ARR extremes. It just feels normal to pick them up (I run alts and that’s the perception I get every time) and nothing warns of the major step up in difficulty.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 01-30-2024 at 10:14 PM.

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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    Green Leafs do not need my help watching cutscenes, but other Green Leafs do need my help with actual other content. I'm happy to coach seven of you through any extreme trial, but not cutscenes.
    They do need warm bodies to fill out the party, which is one of the things Mentor Roulette provides for the duties.
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    Nathaniel Lenox
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    So sprouts has to wait even longer to continue their MSQ ( stuck in long queue).
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    SCH/AST/DNC/VPR/SMN

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    Player Mithron's Avatar
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    Mithron Scarlet
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    They do need warm bodies to fill out the party, which is one of the things Mentor Roulette provides for the duties.
    Sure, let it apply to every other duty than these two because they're also the only two duties with forced long cutscenes. They got plenty of other warm bodies from MSQ roulette players.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeastria View Post
    So sprouts has to wait even longer to continue their MSQ ( stuck in long queue).
    MSQ roulette isn't all that long and making them wait longer when people leave after joining is even worse.
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    MSQ roulette isn't all that long and making them wait longer when people leave after joining is even worse.
    Actually, unless like half the group suddenly up and leaves, you can easily do the MSQ roulettes down 1 or 2 people. Getting the queue to pop and being able to start is far quicker than waiting longer for it to pop in the first place. You'll be progressing the instance and going through the story cutscenes while it re-fills.
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    Sure, let it apply to every other duty than these two because they're also the only two duties with forced long cutscenes. They got plenty of other warm bodies from MSQ roulette players.
    They have long cutscenes. They also have large tomestone rewards to compensate for that.
    If you can't stand having to watch the cutscenes again, then don't run Mentor roulette. Most of the reason for Mentor roulette even existing is simply to fill out with warm bodies where needed.
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    Player Mithron's Avatar
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    Mithron Scarlet
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    They have long cutscenes. They also have large tomestone rewards to compensate for that.
    If you can't stand having to watch the cutscenes again, then don't run Mentor roulette. Most of the reason for Mentor roulette even existing is simply to fill out with warm bodies where needed.
    You don't get large tomestones for doing MSQ dungeons in Mentor Roulette, and I do it to help people who need my help. Saying they specifically need Mentors for "warm bodies" to do that is asinine and wrong. I'm willing to do any other content in the game than MSQ dungeons in Mentor roulette. It would be the right and correct thing to do to remove them from Mentor Roulette.

    I do not do Mentor Roulette for rewards. I do it to help players who actually need my help. No, they do not need my "warm body" to pop their MSQ dungeon queue.
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