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    Quote Originally Posted by BarghastTimes View Post
    the game is old hat
    It was that even when it released, to be honest. I mean, putting many of the game's features on a website called the "lodestone" that looks like it's from the early 2000s instead of in the game itself wasn't modern even when ARR released. It was a bit hit and miss from the beginning and my example was sort of reflected in the game in some areas. However, the graphics were good for the time it released compared to its pixelated and cartoony competition.

    and stale
    That is, always has been and always will be, an opinion. They are consistent. They do accept the need for some new ideas, so a section of content is their "try new things" slot.
    • In ARR, they used that slot to create alliance raids and coil raids.
    • In Heavensward, they used that slot to create deep dungeons and Diadem.
    • In Stormblood, they used that slot to create Ultimates and Eureka.
    • In Shadowbringers, they used that slot to create Ocean Fishing and Ishgard Restoration.
    • In Endwalker, they used that slot to create Variant Dungeons and Island Sanctuary.
    • In Dawntrail it looks like it will be used to create Cosmic Exploration and a different take on deep dungeons.
    There are games that go fully on the concept not being stale by having a Battle Pass system where things change completely every few months. But I personally don't like FOMO because, well, it means you've missed out if you're too late. I wouldn't want the game to be like that. I like the predictability and consistency.

    no-modifications
    I don't think they need to allow these necessarily but being able to fix jank better would be nice. For example, we were told they can't make tooltips show if items are already obtained, then they went back on that statement and added it to the game. There have been a few on the FFXIV team that think things are impossible and that's not a good mindset. There is always a way or a workaround.

    poor inventory and UI
    Following on from what I was saying, with the right mindset, issues with inventory and housing could be solved as well, especially if they use cloud services.

    Use my hardware to its fullest or let me make adjustments
    Most games are designed for "average hardware" that the majority of people have or have better than, tbh. It's always been like that. It's not a good business move to sell a game that only a relative few people are capable of playing when you could get far more sales.

    I think to a certain degree, they can make it so the default settings work with the majority of hardware but allow the settings to go higher. But that is only going to work for some things, because for example they can't so easily change the amount of objects or detail they have created in the environments.

    Also streamline ARR to StB, it's a slog. Many ppl I invite to the game quit cause ARR and never get to see ShB and END which are quality content.
    That's never gonna happen, obviously. What they could do is just allow people to start at Dawntrail for free. Or they could start a future expansion without making direct references to the past unless you've completed prior quests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    That's never gonna happen, obviously. What they could do is just allow people to start at Dawntrail for free. Or they could start a future expansion without making direct references to the past unless you've completed prior quests.
    I think this would help the game so much, right now it feels like joining at like, the middle season of a show. You don't start LOST at Season 3. Etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarghastTimes View Post
    I think this would help the game so much, right now it feels like joining at like, the middle season of a show. You don't start LOST at Season 3. Etc.
    Right, but the answer to that isn't expecting the creators of the show to "streamline" seasons one and two for you. Let them stand as they are.

    At most, there are probably still some fetch quests that could be simplified, but we've already lost more story content than I like in the name of streamlining post-ARR. Some parts were fair to simplify but others are a genuine loss – the Sylphlands section in particular seems to be widely missed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarghastTimes View Post
    I've just been looking at the financial numbers that FFXI and FFXIV drew in, and they're both Squeenix's best earners of their eras. Do you think they'll make a FF18 Online or 20Online in the future?

    Or do you think they fact they pour most the money we pay in this game into things like Kingdom Hearts Super Bad Rush Job Messy Narrative Dissonance the Gamplay 2.980 Prologue Chi Unchained Hearts Hearts Hearts Hearts and other Playstation Exclusives, means they've given up on the MMO market and see this as a dead end?

    Opinions?

    I for one would love to see what they could do, unshackled from the burdens of 1.0's sphaghetti code.
    If they did make a new FF MMO, then I would drop this one, just like I dropped FFXI when this game released.

    I would rather they continued to upgrade and support this game, but I'm not totally against a new FF-MMO.
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    Same, but I wouldn't be sad. Eorzea was fun, do was Vanadiel, Ivalice etc

    A whole new world, maybe booty that ain't FLAT or concave? Finally able to wear something other than robes without groaning?

    Peak. Perfection. Bliss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarghastTimes View Post
    Same, but I wouldn't be sad. Eorzea was fun, do was Vanadiel, Ivalice etc

    A whole new world, maybe booty that ain't FLAT or concave? Finally able to wear something other than robes without groaning?

    Peak. Perfection. Bliss.
    Better yet. Going back to having staple FF series mechanics that helped define the RPG genre.
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    Such as? Because the first Final Fantay had sections of tech, machina, things that look magic and are actually tech, etc etc. And God Killing.

    I think thematically we're right were we're supposed to be. FF6-FF7-FF8 all had tech aspects, so did FF9 with the airships.

    So if you're sour about Solution 9, I don't think that's valid personally.

    Now if you mean... That they don't flesh out interparty interactions, I agree. Later titles showed the party bonding, for example FF10, they showed their growth personally and intrapersonally. I want that for the Scions, outside deaths in ARR.
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