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  1. #71
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    Well I side with the GMs in this one, enough said, and it is something it can refer towards which is just plain wrong, also this is a Japanese game.

    You may want to rething stuff, and also to sort of have some manners, in a figure of speech.
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solakor View Post
    Jumping to conclusions isn't policing the rules it's making them on the spot. Loli does not inherently mean anything bad but you can jump to a conclusion. You yourself are giving a meaning to the OPs name that it does not inherently have.
    Again, I don't see a world where on the internet you can reasonably argue that 'loli' is not inherently bad without clocking yourself. Making the argument otherwise is ridiculous. But for the sake of the argument, lets explore that. Language is derived from culture and drawing meaning from surroundings and how you make meaning of the world. To then say that 'well they didn't mean it that way' when clearly enough people around them see otherwise, is worthless. The meaning of your name, their name, especially when said name is just a japanese honorific plus a rather infamous noun that I will make the bold statement; most people on the internet know- the meaning is not up to them. I can't name myself a slur and say 'well it means something different to me'.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Well I side with the GMs in this one, enough said, and it is something it can refer towards which is just plain wrong, also this is a Japanese game.

    You may want to rething stuff, and also to sort of have some manners, in a figure of speech.
    International game according to their own description. Also how can you talk about respect if you keep policing only 1 way of thinking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solakor View Post
    International game according to their own description. Also how can you talk about respect if you keep policing only 1 way of thinking?
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solakor View Post
    International game according to their own description. Also how can you talk about respect if you keep policing only 1 way of thinking?
    It has nothing to do with, you can use google, and see what references comes up, that is enough said and there is nothing more to discuss about it that the name is simply wrong to use and the intensions is too obvious.

    Maybe the person for self see it different, but for the crowd, it may give them bad associations, meaning that something has to be done, and they did.

    THIS is first of all a Japanese game, and they are not going to lose face over someone being inappropiate or be associated with possible bad stuff through that, and that is that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ysuhli View Post
    Again, I don't see a world where on the internet you can reasonably argue that 'loli' is not inherently bad without clocking yourself. Making the argument otherwise is ridiculous. But for the sake of the argument, lets explore that. Language is derived from culture and drawing meaning from surroundings and how you make meaning of the world. To then say that 'well they didn't mean it that way' when clearly enough people around them see otherwise, is worthless. The meaning of your name, their name, especially when said name is just a japanese honorific plus a rather infamous noun that I will make the bold statement; most people on the internet know- the meaning is not up to them. I can't name myself a slur and say 'well it means something different to me'.
    Loli isnt bad because it has different meanings other than lolicon. Assuming the OPs name refers to that is one sided way of looking at it. Even slurs in one language are normal words in another f.e. baguette. How many baguette named characters are there and should they all be made to rename? This is just one example btw. There are millions of words that have different meanings and assuming one meaning does not make it inherently bad.
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    Are we gonna argue the use of a Japanese word in a japanses Ran game? Also said word is seen as Synonymous with CP in MOST countries so lets be real. OP just wants to be dumb.
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    Last edited by strawberrycake; 02-09-2024 at 02:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solakor View Post
    Loli isnt bad because it has different meanings other than lolicon. Assuming the OPs name refers to that is one sided way of looking at it. Even slurs in one language are normal words in another f.e. baguette. How many baguette named characters are there and should they all be made to rename? This is just one example btw. There are millions of words that have different meanings and assuming one meaning does not make it inherently bad.
    So you would call yourself, a loli-connisurre.....if you would........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solakor View Post
    Loli isnt bad because it has different meanings other than lolicon. Assuming the OPs name refers to that is one sided way of looking at it. Even slurs in one language are normal words in another f.e. baguette. How many baguette named characters are there and should they all be made to rename? This is just one example btw. There are millions of words that have different meanings and assuming one meaning does not make it inherently bad.
    I mean I've made my point several times at this point. One does not equate the other. This isn't like they were banned for being named baguette, this is not a case where it's some obscure word that sounds like a slur in another language. This is a well known word, originating from a book that was literally about the same exact topic. I see no other world where, if you are involved in the internet heavily enough to be playing FFXIV, you do not know at least SLIGHTLY that the meaning is bad. To pretend to do so is straight up lying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    So you would call yourself, a loli-connisurre.....if you would........
    Not bad. I'll give you that one but not in that kinda context.
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