My name is not against ToS/Rules - Yet being forced to change it

[Solakor]

The GM received a report and after whatever behind the scenes stuff happened delivered a verdict. The player in question is free to dispute it yes, but that is extremely unlikely to work and also requires support. The reported player attempted to gain that support from the forums and the forums are filled with people who will both defend and condemn their actions. There's no crusade going on here. Just people saying their thoughts and explaining their positions.

I don't see this thread changing anything about the OP's situation and may actually make it worse. Trying to point fingers likely won't help with that, but good luck in your strategy.

The community at large does not make the rules. SE does. There is nothing in the name that implies it is used in a weird manner and it was allowed through the character creation. Players policing how ppl are supposed to play the game is not in the rules. The only thing the OP wanted was to get noticed by SE support because they don't know what else they could have done. Also them being able to still keep the word loli is enough evidence that it's not against any rule.

[Ysuhli]

The community at large does not make the rules. SE does. There is nothing in the name that implies it is used in a weird manner and it was allowed through the character creation. Players policing how ppl are supposed to play the game is not in the rules. The only thing the OP wanted was to get noticed by SE support because they don't know what else they could have done. Also them being able to still keep the word loli is enough evidence that it's not against any rule.

Look up the scunthorpe problem please for the love of god. The word itself is the 'weird manner' and to say otherwise is to play ignorant just to try and make your point. If making someone change their name from something offensive to inoffensive is 'policing how people play the game' then we're already there. I don't see anyone naming themselves racial slurs or curse words. Hell, Charmin Ultrasoft had to change their name due to covid. More importantly, it's a name. This is not SQE going to their home and breaking their fingers for something, this is not some crazy mass policing. This is 'hey we don't like the name, change it'. Equating that to policing is absolutely blowing it out of proportion.

[Solakor]

Look up the scunthorpe problem please for the love of god. The word itself is the 'weird manner' and to say otherwise is to play ignorant just to try and make your point. If making someone change their name from something offensive to inoffensive is 'policing how people play the game' then we're already there. I don't see anyone naming themselves racial slurs or curse words. Hell, Charmin Ultrasoft had to change their name due to covid. More importantly, it's a name. This is not SQE going to their home and breaking their fingers for something, this is not some crazy mass policing. This is 'hey we don't like the name, change it'. Equating that to policing is absolutely blowing it out of proportion.

The problem is that one GM does not police things the same way that another GM does. There is no consistent policy how or what ppl are allowed to name their char. Yes you can report someone for anything in this game and if you are out of luck anything you say can be used against you in someones head. That is the issue. Not the names themselves, even though it is ridiculous they need to be changed.

[Ysuhli]

The problem is that one GM does not police things the same way that another GM does. There is no consistent policy how or what ppl are allowed to name their char. Yes you can report someone for anything in this game and if you are out of luck anything you say can be used against you in someones head. That is the issue. Not the names themselves, even though it is ridiculous they need to be changed.

This is far from a situation where anything is unfair or inconsistent? And how is this an issue of GMs being unfair? Their name violates ToS, 'loli' is not allowed nor should be. Trying to turn an argument that 'loli isn't sexual' into 'gms apply their rules unfairly and inconsistently' are two separate issues. Trying to turn this argument about 'loli' into the argument about 'gms being unfair' is going to make you and others who make similar claims look like they're pro-'loli', which isn't a good look for very obvious reasons. And if that is your argument, make it clear that it is, otherwise it's poorly structured since no one can tell what you're arguing about. Motte and Bailey fallacies do no one any good, especially you.

Ultimately GMs police to what the ToS says. If you wanna read through it and try to point out how they're unfair, sure? Maybe? Go ahead, but you can't make that assumption. We don't have the official SQE guidelines on how they're supposed to act. We pay to play their games and agree to follow their rules, not ours. We do not know the standards they are held to nor whether the GMs make the decision or their supervisors do. We can try to make the claim that it's unfair, but we have probably a quarter of the picture on how GM moderation works or is supposed to work. To try and act like we can tell if it's unfair or not is being deliberately ignorant for the sake of deflecting from the original issue of 'lolicon is bad'.

[magtuired]

I can not imagine dying on the hill of wanting to keep a name that implies you like to sexualize children. Regardless of personal intention, words have connotation and meaning and sadly regardless of the fact rhat "Lolita" was a name that had nothing to do with pedophilia and that the novel itself was anti-pedophilia, it has been co-opted and used to indicate sexual interest in children and this is not line we want to be soft about in any community. No pedophilia. Not as a joke. Not as an unfortunate coincidence. No.

[Solakor]

This is far from a situation where anything is unfair or inconsistent? And how is this an issue of GMs being unfair? Their name violates ToS, 'loli' is not allowed nor should be. Trying to turn an argument that 'loli isn't sexual' into 'gms apply their rules unfairly and inconsistently' are two separate issues. Trying to turn this argument about 'loli' into the argument about 'gms being unfair' is going to make you and others who make similar claims look like they're pro-'loli', which isn't a good look for very obvious reasons. And if that is your argument, make it clear that it is, otherwise it's poorly structured since no one can tell what you're arguing about. Motte and Bailey fallacies do no one any good, especially you.

Ultimately GMs police to what the ToS says. If you wanna read through it and try to point out how they're unfair, sure? Maybe? Go ahead, but you can't make that assumption. We don't have the official SQE guidelines on how they're supposed to act. We pay to play their games and agree to follow their rules, not ours. We do not know the standards they are held to nor whether the GMs make the decision or their supervisors do. We can try to make the claim that it's unfair, but we have probably a quarter of the picture on how GM moderation works or is supposed to work. To try and act like we can tell if it's unfair or not is being deliberately ignorant for the sake of deflecting from the original issue of 'lolicon is bad'.

Jumping to conclusions isn't policing the rules it's making them on the spot. Loli does not inherently mean anything bad but you can jump to a conclusion. You yourself are giving a meaning to the OPs name that it does not inherently have.

[Ysuhli]

Jumping to conclusions isn't policing the rules it's making them on the spot. Loli does not inherently mean anything bad but you can jump to a conclusion. You yourself are giving a meaning to the OPs name that it does not inherently have.

Again, I don't see a world where on the internet you can reasonably argue that 'loli' is not inherently bad without clocking yourself. Making the argument otherwise is ridiculous. But for the sake of the argument, lets explore that. Language is derived from culture and drawing meaning from surroundings and how you make meaning of the world. To then say that 'well they didn't mean it that way' when clearly enough people around them see otherwise, is worthless. The meaning of your name, their name, especially when said name is just a japanese honorific plus a rather infamous noun that I will make the bold statement; most people on the internet know- the meaning is not up to them. I can't name myself a slur and say 'well it means something different to me'.

[Solakor]

Again, I don't see a world where on the internet you can reasonably argue that 'loli' is not inherently bad without clocking yourself. Making the argument otherwise is ridiculous. But for the sake of the argument, lets explore that. Language is derived from culture and drawing meaning from surroundings and how you make meaning of the world. To then say that 'well they didn't mean it that way' when clearly enough people around them see otherwise, is worthless. The meaning of your name, their name, especially when said name is just a japanese honorific plus a rather infamous noun that I will make the bold statement; most people on the internet know- the meaning is not up to them. I can't name myself a slur and say 'well it means something different to me'.

Loli isnt bad because it has different meanings other than lolicon. Assuming the OPs name refers to that is one sided way of looking at it. Even slurs in one language are normal words in another f.e. baguette. How many baguette named characters are there and should they all be made to rename? This is just one example btw. There are millions of words that have different meanings and assuming one meaning does not make it inherently bad.

[Xirean]

The community at large does not make the rules. SE does. There is nothing in the name that implies it is used in a weird manner and it was allowed through the character creation. Players policing how ppl are supposed to play the game is not in the rules. The only thing the OP wanted was to get noticed by SE support because they don't know what else they could have done. Also them being able to still keep the word loli is enough evidence that it's not against any rule.

I'm not sure where I said the community makes rules. Players are free to make reports against other players all they want and GM's are free to act on or ignore those reports based entirely on how their department trained them. Names being allowed should never be taken as a pass on the name in perpetuity. Forced name changes happen all the time and will keep happening. Perhaps the OP hasn't actually changed the name yet? I'm also not concerned with what is and isn't against the rules for this name. I get why people reported and I get why the GM did what they did.