I actually support this. Your name Loli could even be the short version of the name Lollipop. You aren’t even using the name Loli in a way that’s disgraceful.
I actually support this. Your name Loli could even be the short version of the name Lollipop. You aren’t even using the name Loli in a way that’s disgraceful.
If theres one thing this community has proven time and time again, Children are fodder to be used and abused so long as a point is made or gratification is obtained. A Semantics argument will be had if you point it out, people will move the goal post, even try too invoke aging laws from other countries about the age of consent, all to maintain their really weird ways to continue using children as fodder. Beause XIV is an online game and IRL stuff obvious doesn't apply right? Even tho they can literally report you to the FBI or your countries equivalent if you're creepy enough.
But no let's say using a term like Loli isn't weird and act like OP isn't trolling.
Never said so, but as the ToS appears to be quite loose and leaves the enforcement up to GMs values. Local laws affect a person's values, like it or not. So in Europe as in the OP's example, where there are many countries with widely different values and laws, it's very hard to understand what "Common decency" in the ToS actually means. And if someone is punished while others aren't, that can feel quite unfair.1.) This isn't a matter of whether it's legal or not. The GMs found it against ToS. This isn't a judicial court of law, there isn't arguing, it's bad
2.) Even if it is legal in X Y or Z countries does not change that it is illegal in others. Trying to make the claim that just because it's legal in some makes it okay doesn't change anything about the subject nor does it make it okay or even remotely acceptable. There's many legal things you can do to people in some countries that are, in nearly all cultures, absolutely reprehensible. It still does not make it okay.
My main point is that the ToS needs proper rules. Not this open to GMs interpretation nonsense. If it would mean the word is banned then so be it, at least it would be consistent.
As an example Discord. They ban lolicon, that's okay. It's clear in their ToS. No one should be complaining about it.
About your other point I agree that while the subject is legal in some countries, it is still illegal in others. It being illegal there should be respected. But that respect should go the other way too. If you start pushing your countries own laws and values as absolutes then that becomes an issue.
There is zero incentive and zero reason for a company to switch to a comprehensive list of rules with zero room for discretion in dealing with end users, because end users are exceptionally innovative in finding ways to skirt right along the edge of absolute rules and will use them as both a weapon and a shield.
It's not a design flaw, it is the design.
Tiny edit: The absence of such laws does not denote the condoning of it. No one can draw any conclusions as to whether or not it is or isn't okay.
There are some things in life that pretty much everyone agrees are offensive.
There are other things in life that Person A has no issue with, but Person B doesn't like. And when Person B is the one making the rules on what is, and is not, acceptable, Person A really has no option but to put up with it, even though they may not agree. I've been there myself so I can certainly understand the frustration.
If I was online and ran into the OP with that name, it would in no way bother me at all. I don't have even a remote issue with it.
But clearly someone else does.
Whats worse is that if the OP is from Europe, how they're using Loli is ironically enough perpetuating several things. A stereotype that young asian children are sexual, this stems from very age old myth put in place by western powers like the US and EU when racism against asians was more rampant, that asian girls are hyper sexual, how this connects is that weebs see loli, see young asian girls and instantly equate that asian females are sexual no matter the age, so much so that modern day countries HAD to make the term illegal.
So not only is this sexist, it's racist, and just straight up Creepy.
Like a Literal Japanese person can come on this thread, say this is offensive af and people WILL STILL ARGUE with that person about their culture. lmfaooooo
Last edited by strawberrycake; 02-09-2024 at 02:57 AM.
According to some ppl in this thread they would literally hunt the OP down and report him until he was forced to change the name to something else. Sounds very reasonable in this contextThere are some things in life that pretty much everyone agrees are offensive.
There are other things in life that Person A has no issue with, but Person B doesn't like. And when Person B is the one making the rules on what is, and is not, acceptable, Person A really has no option but to put up with it, even though they may not agree. I've been there myself so I can certainly understand the frustration.
If I was online and ran into the OP with that name, it would in no way bother me at all. I don't have even a remote issue with it.
But clearly someone else does.
To be fair, the name isn't entirely without dubious context. However, it is far from an inherent issue either. Being told you have to change your name is pretty stupid, but I've actually seen people forced to change their name for less. I recall a certain person with the first name Diarrhea on Siren for well over a year until suddenly one day they were forced to change their name because some disgruntled person they got into an argument with reported them for their name. So..
I didn't go through every page of this before replying, so not sure if it ever got resolved, but I'm going to guess that it didn't go well for the OP. Really a shame the GMs have nothing better to do than go through stupid reports like this and even worse to feel it necessary to act on them as opposed to ignore them.
Define "hunt down" in this context. This isn't people tracking the OP and doxing their IRL details. People saw a player in a game with a name they thought was inappropriate and reported said name that was on their screen, likely from chatting or being qued together.
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