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    Dakimakura's Avatar
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    Daki Makura
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    There is nothing wrong with the name, just people that need to get over themselves and not police others over harmless things.
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    Given the kind of people this game attracts I'm of the opinion that this isn't as harmless as you'd like us to believe
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    Aergrael Iyrnrael
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuicyHeals View Post
    Given the kind of people this game attracts I'm of the opinion that this isn't as harmless as you'd like us to believe
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loli

    There are many meanings, and its already used as an actualy name. That even includes an australian (which means that in english speaking countries it shouldnt be as much as an issue. its not like everyone gets a wiki page, so you can be sure there is a decent usage of such surnames): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Loli

    That loli is also an abbreviation for something else... thats a side effect. But on that context could be worth it. Since depending on DC the meaning and implications can vary a lot. I can understand that in japan the name would be a big issue, but in europe, it barely makes a dent. In europe we accept a lot more of this stuff (even significantly more than the US).

    But since the game has japanese origin... i suspect even these arguments wont help. But maybe its worth sending that Peter url to indicate its an existing name.
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    "grr social justice warriors virtue signaling grr" says someone climbing over himself to post repeatedly how he's NOT offended by words, make sure you got that on the record, just so everyone knows, NOT offended by words not EVER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    "grr social justice warriors virtue signaling grr" says someone climbing over himself to post repeatedly how he's NOT offended by words, make sure you got that on the record, just so everyone knows, NOT offended by words not EVER.
    You just proved my point. Also defending someone from stupidity is community service
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solakor View Post
    You just proved my point. Also defending someone from stupidity is community service
    If that's the case, the best community service you could provide would be to leave.
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    Player Solakor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    If that's the case, the best community service you could provide would be to leave.
    Kinda ironic don't you think? Also your comments are straight from the twitter hand book. Lots of crying for lots of nothing. You are judging ppl according to your social justice agenda and can't for the life of you try to see things objectively. That's what the brainrot does to ppl. You can still be saved lmao
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    Wren Snakelily
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    "grr social justice warriors virtue signaling grr" says someone climbing over himself to post repeatedly how he's NOT offended by words, make sure you got that on the record, just so everyone knows, NOT offended by words not EVER.
    We are witnessing someone shrinking and transforming into a corncob live, aren't we...
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    Ellen Sjasaris
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    The attempts to justify this name are absurd.

    In Japan, "loli" is a sexualized underage girl. Do we need to go on?

    This is not "Peter Loli" we're talking about. When you lead with a Japanese word like "Sensei" or "Senpai," you are inviting, indeed welcoming, the Japanese interpretation. And wouldn't you know it? The character in question is a female lalafell...

    "Loli" culture in Japan is not "cute" or mainstream. It is a "nudge-nudge, wink-wink" subculture that uses code words and pushes up to the limit of what the law will accept.

    In an online game, you don't get to play with just your subculture. You have to play with real people from real life. It's no wonder that the name was reported.

    At first I thought that perhaps OP was simply unaware of the connotations. But keeping the last name the same even after the "change" pretty much rules that out.
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    Y'suhli Blackburn
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    This is the most absurd defense over the use of 'Loli' I've ever seen. I'm sure GMs would like to ban other people, but they can't pull up a list of players and start banning them. Part of that is that it needs to be reported. Looks like you got reported.

    Given how close to the concept of 'loli' in popular culture you are with how you define it, you're fully aware of what it is. None of this is unfair, it doesn't matter how you define a word, if the world and community at large define it differently, then that is the definition that matters much much more, especially given that it does violate ToS. This isn't an absurd situation, everyone who's been on the internet and in circle with weirdo weebs knows exactly what 'loli' is and how the term is used. And I'm sure if these many people that everyone is mentioning were also reported that they'd also be banned.

    Don't have 'loli isn't sexual' be the hill you die on. It's really not worth it. Especially trying to self aggrandize yourself as the champion for the use of the word 'loli' in your name. It's not gonna be a good look in the long term.
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