gear that levels with us like "heirloom" gear from WoW?

[boopadoop]

if it's not an issue for you pls just ignore me idc if i disappear into obscurity i just wanted to +1 to idea that exists in other games bc i genuinely think it's a good feature

the suggestion is to allow higher level players to use their main/higher lvl job, which they tend to do anyway, to acquire gear that lasts longer than ~10 levels so you don't have to do the same-same stop and and gear up again and again for every alt job you're leveling at different periods of time because of the timesink and inventory space that it uses. the suggestion is not to allow new players to acquire this gear that simplifies the gearing process or whatever; you could lock it behind 2k tomestones of anything *per piece*, or lock it behind raid or extreme trial totems/tokens, or even use criterion dungeons to give tokens that you can use to buy the gear if you want, i really don't care how the acquisition is done, just that it would be nice for it to be an option for people who have been through the process multiple times and are tired of it.

- the kind of tech already exists through the expansion bonus earrings like menphina's earrings, just edit it a little bit to remove the exp buff and maybe add (not min or BiS level, maybe in the middle) ilvl scaling instead.

- the gear would not last all the way to the current level cap, that is the point of this kind of gear to *not* replace normal gear progression with your main job. it is just for leveling alt jobs so that you can cut all the nuisance of alt job leveling. the level cap of the scaling gear could end at the previous expansion's level cap or the expansion *before*, so when we're lvl 100 the gear only scales up to 80. honestly maybe even 70.

- i do not want a new set of cool looking gear for it, you could give it to me through the weathered slops and i'd be happy

the reason i ask is because i don't constantly play, i take break and random times, sometimes i don't want to spend ~hr just to acquire gear to level for about 10 levels before i have to ditch them (due to inv space and having classes at different levels taking up armoury space, so maybe there's no room to keep the gear in lieu of playing several other aspects of the game than just leveling alt jobs when the mood strikes, especially if you want to craft your own gear and gear for friends due to the amount of space crafting materials take up alongside eeeeverything else you keep for whatever reason [esPECIALly if you're working on the crafting/gathering relic(?) tools]).

and it wouldn't even be one set for all jobs so there's still significant effort into acquiring the gear; one for tanks, one for healers, probably two for dps bc we put them into different classifications.


this is just an anecdote after not playing for months and just wanting to do leveling stuff, i don't need advice on gearing bc i know what options there are, it's just frustrating when my other alt job gear is taking up a lot of space too so i can't just hold onto the highest lvl stuff until they can use it too if i'm avoiding the lowest lvl classes because i don't *enjoy* them but *do want* to level them eventually. the point is "let's so some roulettes to level x" ends up being "oh, i can't. how long is it gonna take me to be able to? ..oh boy fun"

i wanted to play ffxiv today with my friend after we've taken a long break and we leveled a few times yesterday but our gear for some classes is pretty behind; he started to craft newer armor for himself because (1: just buying the gear costs a lot of gil that isn't worth spending for only 10 levels, and 2: whether tomes were capped or not you probably need more than 2k tomes for a mostly full set, and some people don't come back to the game after a break with full tomestones and that would mean having to run stuff just to level again) we had been leveling crafting before we paused, but like

crafting is also so convoluted with materials all over the place that we can't even hold in an independent inventory solely for itself that grabbing materials to try and calculate how many you need and making sure you don't accidentally craft too many of the thing because you're doing 40 steps for a single piece of armor and then you run out of inventory space both for the crafting materials and bc of the armor sets bc you probably have a couple sets for the same category of gear because jobs are at diff levels so you have to sell the old armors to make room for other sets even though you'll need it later for other classes ksjdasd

he got frustrated because "i just wanted to play" but then had to just do all this prep and i felt really bad for even asking if he wants to play at all bc of how much time had to be wasted for a whole 10, maybe 15 if we push it, levels

so, it'd be. really nice. if all of that doesn't have to be a thing.
it'd be gatekept gear by content access and level of the main job. why not have something like heirloom armor for leveling alt jobs so that we don't have to gear them every 10-20 levels with different sets? it would alleviate a significant bit of of inventory management and space. that's pretty much it.

to be clear, i don't want the bonus exp on the armor sets, literally just the stats and ilvl that moves up and down with our level (to a certain point, not to cap, for lower levels, NOT past lvl 70 or 80), and NOT for ppl leveling their first job, your first job is easy experience, it's doing it 10+ times again after that's kinda annoying, esp if you wanna do literally everything for once

[Boblawblah]

that would hurt the focus on roulettes, and that cannot be tolerated. (can you tell i'm tired of roulettes?)

[Jeeqbit]

they don't have to be super strong, but it would be really nice to have maybe like 3 or 4 different sets of armor that can level alongside us for leveling alt jobs (tank, heal, phys dps / magic dps)

SE are against this concept. They were content to make this the case for the Aetheryte earrings, Bozjan earrings and Menphina's earrings that do it, but stated that they wouldn't do it for all gear. Obviously because it would destroy the concept of gear progression and acquiring gear.

i wanted to play ffxiv today with my friend after we've taken a long break and we leveled a few times yesterday but our gear for some classes is pretty behind that he's trying to craft newer armor for himself because we had been leveling crafting before we paused and like

You could buy normal quality from the relevant city state vendor, or high quality from the market board.

Ul'dah, Limsa or Gridania up to level 49.
Ishgard up to level 60.
Kugane up to level 70.
Crystarium up to level 80.

your armory is super full of gearsets from 20 different levels bc maybe you dont level all your jobs at the same time

Could delete them and buy again later. Easy to do so. Or you could store them in the 140 slot inventory, the 70 slot Chocobo Saddle bag, one of your two 175 slot retainers, or your 800 slot Glamour Chest, or use each of your retainers' 20 sale slots and sell them for the gil cap so that nobody buys them.

he's getting frustrated and angry and i feel really bad for even asking if he wants to play bc he has had to spend 1-2hrs of prep just to continue leveling an alt job for a handful of levels more adn just

Could also spend spare tomestones on gear at level 50, 60, 70 and 80 respectively. It is what a lot of people do once they get jobs to level 50.

[boopadoop]

the problem with just buying stuff over and over again is all the gil it costs, esp at higher levels even the normal gear gets pretty expensive to just keep buying whenever you need it
we're not rolling in gil enough for that just yet to keep buying and dumping and buying which is why this is a frustrating problem lol that and the normal gear blehh
tomestones sure but it's still kinda you know....just...a lot of resources and time spent just so you can pick up where you left off and start leveling again only for so long before having to do it all over again, and thats just for the one alt job
the point is it'd be nice to not have to spent ~2hrs just to get a set of gear to level one job for the next 5-10 levels during the time of playing until you take a break for the next time and come back feeling frazzled again because oh no i gotta do all that nonsense for gear that i forgot what i was planning for the next 10 lvls and do i have mats for the next what do i have to go fstm again

[Jeeqbit]

the problem with just buying stuff over and over again is all the gil it costs, esp at higher levels even the normal gear gets pretty expensive to just keep buying whenever you need it
we're not rolling in gil enough for that just yet to keep buying and dumping and buying which is why this is a frustrating problem lol that and the normal gear blehh
tomestones sure but it's still kinda you know....just...resources and time spent just so you can pick up where you left off and start leveling again
the point is it'd be nice to not have to spent ~2hrs just to get a set of gear to level one job for the next 5-10 levels during the time of playing until you take a break for the next time and come back feeling frazzled again because oh no i gotta do all that nonsense for gear that i forgot how or where or what again

Personally I get plenty of tomestones and gil from doing roulettes, which effectively makes it pay for itself.

[Musashidon]

you can always unsyc low lvl dungeons for gear with a max lvl job its pretty fast getting gear lvl 70 or lower.

to be honest i don't have much suggestions to help with this problem as i have never had a problem getting gear as i lvled and if its an alt you should be getting gear just fine in the dungeons.

when it comes to lvling gear that is synced to your lvl but is stated to max lvl i mean sure why not i dont personally have much care but it would hurt the normal gear and shred it up so as previously stated i doubt we will be seeing that implemented anytime soon.

[NekoMataMata]

Might upset people but I'll say it. The MSQ gears your main job, and that's a massive freebie. From what people say about other MMOs, the fact that you can alt job on the same character is already a massive benefit. You can't really expect them to hold your hand and gear up every single job for you.

[LianaThorne]

You'll have to invest time or money to progress. Least painful/cheapest pways are dungeon/roulette spam for gear and tomes. Or get into an FC and ask someone to help make you gear but they might ask for you to buy mats first.

[KageTokage]

I'd welcome more scaling gear if it means not getting horribly undergeared players in MSQ dungeons/trials.

There are item level gates, but not nearly as often as there should be and it still doesn't exclude people from doing things like updating all of their gear except for their weapon which is the biggest influence.

[NekoMataMata]

I'd welcome more scaling gear if it means not getting horribly undergeared players in MSQ dungeons/trials.

There are item level gates, but not nearly as often as there should be and it still doesn't exclude people from doing things like updating all of their gear except for their weapon which is the biggest influence.

Except in ARR. Everything under level 50 doesn't have an item level requirement.

There probably wouldn't be nearly as many horror stories about AV if it was item level gated so you couldn't get a tank in there with level 1 gear.

We could also remedy the weapon bit by rearranging tome costs. Make weapons the first thing people get to buy, rather than incentivizing new players to buy all of the right slot items because they're cheaper and can bring their ilevel up quickly.