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  1. #1
    Player
    Avatar de DamianFatale
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    mai 2015
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    Ishgard
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    Arctura Fengari
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Danseur Lv 90

    Asura in XIV Was a Disgrace to the legacy of FFIV

    This summon rarely gets representation in the franchise, but lately she has been getting really bad features. First she is in the worst version of Chocobo Racing for the Switch, and then she is mishandled in XIV.

    She barely even uses her other faces, and is just a throwaway relic weapon boss. Its stupid. There should of been an EX version at the very least with extra rewards. Perhaps instead of contributing to the mount farm, there could of been something unique offered.

    It could of been a mount of its own, a glamour set from Thavair, or anything really. It doesn't matter as long as it acts as an incentive. The lack of an EX version was a disgrace to those who waited for this summon for so long. :/
    (14)
    Dernière modification de DamianFatale, 24/01/2024 à 16h54

  2. #2
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    Avatar de remiff
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    juillet 2016
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    776
    Character
    Caius Megaflare
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Invocateur Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par DamianFatale Voir le message
    This summon rarely gets representation in the franchise, but lately she has been getting really bad features. First she is the worst version of Chocobo Racing for the Switch, and then she is mishandled in XIV.

    Her barely even uses her other faces, and is just a throwaway relic weapon boss. Its stupid. There should of been an EX version at the very least with extra rewards. Perhaps instead of contributing to the mount farm, there could of been something unique offered.

    It could of been a mount of its own, a glamour set from Thavair, or anything really. It doesn't matter as long as it acts an incentive. The lack of an EX version was a disgrace to those who waited for this summon for so long. :/
    I can understand the disappointment regarding Asura, however, it remains content related to Hildibrand, and for once, we didn't have another battle against Gilgamesh.

    I admit that the fight is not very interesting, and one may wonder why it exists.

    But never before have the challenges in the Hildibrand quests offered more than just a regular battle.

    It wasn't a secret that Asura wouldn't have an Extreme version and would be a fight primarily because a battle needed to be released for Hildi.

    Anyway, considering how Endwalker only provided the bare minimum, one shouldn't have expected anything better.
    (10)

  3. #3
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    Avatar de Reimmi
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    mars 2018
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    Character
    Nia Niyah
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Danseur Lv 92
    Citation Envoyé par remiff Voir le message
    I can understand the disappointment regarding Asura, however, it remains content related to Hildibrand, and for once, we didn't have another battle against Gilgamesh.

    I admit that the fight is not very interesting, and one may wonder why it exists.

    But never before have the challenges in the Hildibrand quests offered more than just a regular battle.

    It wasn't a secret that Asura wouldn't have an Extreme version and would be a fight primarily because a battle needed to be released for Hildi.

    Anyway, considering how Endwalker only provided the bare minimum, one shouldn't have expected anything better.
    Gilgamesh also deserved an ex, his song is incredibly hype and he's iconic as well. shame
    (8)

  4. #4
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    Avatar de Bellsong
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    Character
    Wondrous Waifu
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Hilde is where neat trial bosses go to die.

    I'm sure he'll probably fight Sephiroth one day and it'll end with that Sephiroth running gif.
    (7)

  5. #5
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    Avatar de CaptainLagbeard
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    aot 2013
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    Rhaya Jakkya
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Mage blanc Lv 100
    They COULD have given an Extreme version of the fight that made more use of her... Or the Gilgamesh fight... But Square loves missed opportunities when it comes to Hildibrand I guess.
    (2)

  6. #6
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    Avatar de TheMightyMollusk
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    Iyami Galvayra
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Hildebrand Ultimate coming soon. (Twist: Asura was Gilgamesh all along! Don't question it.)
    (5)

  7. #7
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    Avatar de KuroMaboroshi
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    A'carisa Merahk
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par Bellsong Voir le message
    Hilde[sic] is where neat trial bosses go to die.
    This is incidental. These trials just happened to end up in the Hildibrand Adventure quests, but would have the same problems regardless of what questline they'd be attached to.
    The last two trials that showed up in the Manderville quests were both featured at Fan Festivals. As such, they are made for when the first Fanfest rolls around, but are included in the game only after the final one is over.

    This has a few consequences:
    • The boss will be designed to be completed by groups of people randomly assembled at Fanfest within a time limit. Square still wants the majority of people there to be able to beat it, so the mechanics are severely undertuned as a result.
    • The boss will be tuned to the iLevel that was "current" when the first Fanfest occured, but released a good 2-3 patches later. This means pretty much everyone will be overgeared for it, further reducing the challenge.
    • There is no EX version as the trials are made for Fanfest only. As such the usual rewards for those are not provided.

    The first two points are likely to never change with Fanfest battles, as Square wants to build the trial and then not worry about it anymore, re-tuning it every Fanfest and then again when it releases into the game.
    The last one would require Square to allocate resources that they are apparently unwilling to commit to it so far, and it may be the one thing I could see them change one day. I would be very much in favour of Fanfest battles getting an EX version, which could then be tuned to the time they release in game, as that version wouldn't be at Fanfest. Alas, I won't hold my breath for it.
    (4)

  8. #8
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    Avatar de Jeeqbit
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Guerrier Lv 100
    Maybe SE wanted to be asura'd that everyone could beat it.
    (6)

  9. #9
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    Avatar de Supersnow845
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    aot 2021
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    Gridania
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    Andreas Cestelle
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Pictomancien Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par KuroMaboroshi Voir le message
    This is incidental. These trials just happened to end up in the Hildibrand Adventure quests, but would have the same problems regardless of what questline they'd be attached to.
    The last two trials that showed up in the Manderville quests were both featured at Fan Festivals. As such, they are made for when the first Fanfest rolls around, but are included in the game only after the final one is over.

    This has a few consequences:
    • The boss will be designed to be completed by groups of people randomly assembled at Fanfest within a time limit. Square still wants the majority of people there to be able to beat it, so the mechanics are severely undertuned as a result.
    • The boss will be tuned to the iLevel that was "current" when the first Fanfest occured, but released a good 2-3 patches later. This means pretty much everyone will be overgeared for it, further reducing the challenge.
    • There is no EX version as the trials are made for Fanfest only. As such the usual rewards for those are not provided.

    The first two points are likely to never change with Fanfest battles, as Square wants to build the trial and then not worry about it anymore, re-tuning it every Fanfest and then again when it releases into the game.
    The last one would require Square to allocate resources that they are apparently unwilling to commit to it so far, and it may be the one thing I could see them change one day. I would be very much in favour of Fanfest battles getting an EX version, which could then be tuned to the time they release in game, as that version wouldn't be at Fanfest. Alas, I won't hold my breath for it.
    They should do what they did with the original fanfest trial- Odin

    In fanfests they nerf his damage and make his mechanics easier so it can be cleared with randoms, then in the main game it’s an easier than average EX

    If it was also the Hildibrand trial the direct fanfest trial can be the story mode version
    (4)

  10. #10
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    Avatar de Bonoki
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    Phoebe Iris
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Chevalier noir Lv 60
    The fight was very mid. But in terms of plot at least it has confirmed to us that primals can infact still be summoned without the Ascian's influences and plotting and quite possibly be more controlled by the humans without their interferences. This could be a plot reveal that may matter again down the road.
    (5)
    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

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