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    What's the point of redesigning all of the zones if everything is going to be instanced? Now we have one giant, uninteresting world, and the fact that it's so uninteresting doesn't even matter because the only places on it that are relevant are the 15x15 area in front of Aurum Vale entrance, the 15x15 area in front of Cutter's, the Hamlet gather point, the entrance to Garuda, the entrance to Ifrit and Ifrit Extreme, and the relic faction leve areas.

    So here we have one massive world and the only parts of it of any relevance can basically be fit inside a market ward.
    That's what instanced content gets you.

    Without open world HNMs, a fix to the claim system, etc, I'll feel betrayed even more than I did at launch because at least during launch I didn't suffer through this for two years for nothing in anticipation of it.

    Don't understand why we can't have everything....

    Despite the OP's wall of text, he nailed it from top to bottom.
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    The real question, IMO, is what are the Japanese players asking for? Because if the answer to that question is open world, I'm willing to bet we're going to eventually be getting open world. While SE will no doubt take everyone's money and cater to multiple audiences, they're a Japanese company. If the Japanese don't want a WoW clone, and want endgame content in the form of open world five headed Tiamat's that drop epic speedy shoes, similar to XI, that's probably what we're going to get. A lot of NA's are obviously too squeamish and fragile for open world HNMs, but are the Japanese?

    Maybe Reinheart can weigh in on what he sees in this regard coming from the Japanese community.

    Maybe all this instanced talk is just the hook for western audiences going into 2.0 and the open world content will be coming shortly after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthTaru View Post
    What's the point of redesigning all of the zones if everything is going to be instanced? Now we have one giant, uninteresting world, and the fact that it's so uninteresting doesn't even matter because the only places on it that are relevant are the 15x15 area in front of Aurum Vale entrance, the 15x15 area in front of Cutter's, the Hamlet gather point, the entrance to Garuda, the entrance to Ifrit and Ifrit Extreme, and the relic faction leve areas.

    So here we have one massive world and the only parts of it of any relevance can basically be fit inside a market ward.
    That's what instanced content gets you.

    Without open world HNMs, a fix to the claim system, etc, I'll feel betrayed even more than I did at launch because at least during launch I didn't suffer through this for two years for nothing in anticipation of it.

    Don't understand why we can't have everything....

    Despite the OP's wall of text, he nailed it from top to bottom.
    • You need to travel to the instanced entrance once first (before you can use the content finder for this)
    • Gatherer content would be 95% open world (5% instanced during hamlet)
    • Primal is 67% open world (only the fight is instanced. You need to find and claim it first)
    • Quests would be open world
    • Leveling would be open world
    • Chocobo caravan, Behest, Leves are open world
    • Achievements would be mostly open world
    • Farming is open world
    • More things we know nothing about would be open world
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    Last edited by Felis; 07-10-2012 at 09:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    • You need to travel to the instanced entrance once first (before you can use the content finder for this)
    • Gatherer content would be 95% open world (5% instanced during hamlet)
    • Primal is 67% open world (only the fight is instanced. You need to find and claim it first)
    • Quests would be open world
    • Leveling would be open world
    • Chocobo caravan, Behest, Leves are open world
    • Achievements would be mostly open world
    • Farming is open world
    • More thinks we know nothing about would be open world
    Oooh, open world quests! How exciting. Who needs an epic open world battle with Odin when we can run to a cave and click a NPC with an exclamation point over his head. That's where the real action is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthTaru View Post
    Oooh, open world quests! How exciting. Who needs an epic open world battle with Odin when we can run to a cave and click a NPC with an exclamation point over his head. That's where the real action is.
    How you ignore the last point ^^
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    This is one of those instances where a small minority of the entire group is in favor of things that only they want and everyone else has to except, regardless of how stupid it really is. They also tend to be the ones that complain the loudest so it sounds like more of them than there really are.

    Yoshi-P, stay the course... If you let these idiots dictate the course of the game you'll repeat 2010.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    • You need to travel to the instanced entrance once first (before you can use the content finder for this)
    • Gatherer content would be 95% open world (5% instanced during hamlet)
    • Primal is 67% open world (only the fight is instanced. You need to find and claim it first)
    • Quests would be open world
    • Leveling would be open world
    • Chocobo caravan, Behest, Leves are open world
    • Achievements would be mostly open world
    • Farming is open world
    • More things we know nothing about would be open world
    Lest go point by point....

    - That means that they will design a whole world just to see it once... I will like the instance finder but to be required to actually go walk into the instance everytime...

    - Is it even possible to instance gather content....

    - Primals are 90% instanced... They will be a roaming NPC that you have to find, click (small CS that probably ask you and requires an 8 ppl party and may be ask you the difficulty lvl to...lol "hi, im ifrit do you want me to go easy, hard or extreme on you?) and then kill, been an instance fight it means that it will not aggro, so you will be able to poke and lol at it.... When they first announce them been roaming monster I was thinking of something bigger where the weather changes on the zone of the fight and ppl actually gather to see the fight and hope that you dont make it for them to claim it...

    - Quest would be open world and also instance... like always...

    - We really don't know what leveling will be on... based on the last interview, Im all full of questions... He responded something that big in the most simplest way... leaving us all wondering...

    - Are they staying in the game?

    - If the game is surrounded by instances then the achievements will too, with gathering, exploring and crafting exceptions...

    - If the game is surrounded by instances then the farming will be mainly done in the instances... with some exceptions of course... But if they have the main mobs in instances then they will drop the main farming resources...

    - Hopefully they are hidding the open world from us, Im basing my self on what they have say and everything indicates that the game is heading into the direction that most of us don't want... I wish I could read jap to see what the community is saying...
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  8. #28
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    Too much "if" in your post
    think logical
    • they redesign the world
    • they want you to do explore the new world
    • there would be things to do in the world
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    Felis, you're wasting your breath. The people who scream"this is becoming a lobby based game!" aren't wanting rational discourse. They're a bunch of Chicken Littles who hear the word "instanced" and suddenly the entire game magically transforms into solely that format. You can throw out all facts and logical arguments, but they will either latch on to the one minor statement and snark on it to seem less important, or begin lists of maybe's that aren't backed up by evidence, all to validate their notion that an acorn is indeed the sky.

    There s nothing that has genuinely been presented to us which indicates that 2.0 will become a lobby, or anything close to it. Let Chicken Little and Friends flail. Eventually, they'll either exhaust themselves out and realize they were overreacting, or just leave and plague some other community with their histrionics.
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    Who cares anyway if there are more many instances or more open world content as long as you have

    fun


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