Frontlines sucks Ultra megathread

[AnotherPerson]

Put a target cap on Salted Earth. Leaves CC (the only mode they care about balancing) untouched and means a single player can't CC 48 other players with a single button press.

You have more worries than target cap on Salted Earth if one DRK can hit 48 players simultaneously in a single button press. Though I guess that might actually be the norm if a target cap is made because then everyone can just throw bodies to block a capture point until it succeeds.

[EvianYmir89]

At some point, the map should be required to stay open. There is far too many times I see people follow the leader into death traps.
My other gripe is when the third place team just decides to give up fighting the first place team to fight the team in second.

[Taliriah]

I have made my peace with how bad the pvp is in this game. I just play frontlines as ninja and solely focus on surviving (aka stay with the zerg, and if people are dispersed just wait until they aren't) and get some kills in. I don't care about winning. It's the most fun I've had in pvp in this game (which isn't saying much).

[Kaliesto]

Dark Knights & Pre-made Dark Knights have been pissing me off for months, such a broken job when combined with the Scholar.

I'm being forced to play this class way more often than usual just so the bull&&&& can get evened out a bit, and I hate having to do so.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Yep, I'm absolutely sick and tired of the Dark Knight Salted Earth spam bullshit too (and other issues like the constant CC/stunlocking with no diminishing returns). I'm to the point of being completely fed up with playing and may cancel my subscription again (and permanently this time) if they don't fix some of these ridiculous broken things whenever the first PVP patch comes after Dawntrail.

[GoatOfWar]

Yep, I'm absolutely sick and tired of the Dark Knight Salted Earth spam bullshit too (and other issues like the constant CC/stunlocking with no diminishing returns). I'm to the point of being completely fed up with playing and may cancel my subscription again (and permanently this time) if they don't fix some of these ridiculous broken things whenever the first PVP patch comes after Dawntrail.

Hey at least they nerfed our damage and we're hitting you with a wet noodle.
Our job is done once we popped salted earth. Take that away though, and what's left?
Most jobs feel like onetrick ponies in pvp.

[Taliriah]

Hey at least they nerfed our damage and we're hitting you with a wet noodle.
Our job is done once we popped salted earth. Take that away though, and what's left?
Most jobs feel like onetrick ponies in pvp.

And yet most jobs single trick are neither at best super annoying (i love getting pulled and pushed around all the time, it's really fun) and at worst enabling to wipe an entire party at once.

Also, most jobs single trick are LBs, not something spammable every 30s.

[Bonoki]

The unfortunate truth is that, although Dark Knights can be irksome, nerfing them would only pave the way for another strategy to rise as the new meta. While we may not foresee what that replacement might be, it's an inevitable evolution of the game.

[Mawlzy]

At some point, the map should be required to stay open. There is far too many times I see people follow the leader into death traps.
My other gripe is when the third place team just decides to give up fighting the first place team to fight the team in second.

Some of that is becoming so egregious, it looks like win trading.

[Mawlzy]

The unfortunate truth is that, although Dark Knights can be irksome, nerfing them would only pave the way for another strategy to rise as the new meta. While we may not foresee what that replacement might be, it's an inevitable evolution of the game.

Meta evolution is healthy, IMO, although it typically requires changes to jobs. The problem is, unless there is a fundamental redesign that diminishes the extreme power of LB stacking, well-organized premades will exploit the fact and make the mode miserable for everyone else.