Frontlines sucks Ultra megathread

[Aravell]

I disagree that it would encourage people to ignore 1st place. As it is now (and usually always has been), people with barely a lead (especially at the start) often tend to get focused on when available. At that point you're making the bigger assumption that people won't contest 1st place for twice as many mogtomes than getting just 1 or 2 more mogtomes for securing 2nd. You could just as well make the same hypothetical argument that the larger reward for 1st place motivates people to actually want to focus on dragging the 1st place team down.

If 1st place is ever that far ahead where the general consensus of the teams are "fight for 2nd," then there's already a fundamental skill issue between the losing teams that probably wouldn't have been remedied by suddenly deciding they have to focus them down. Also, there's no achievement rewards for coming in 2nd x amount of times nor do the standard tomestones awarded for queuing differ between finishing 2nd and 3rd, so at that point you're saying that only a 1 or 2 mogtome difference is worth not teaming-up against 1st place.

I'll admit that 2nd and 3rd place teams fighting each other already happens, although it is more because of spite, tunnel-vision or general ignorance.

I'm not making an argument one way or another, I'm just pointing out that people will always take the path of least resistance.

So if 1st place gives 10 tomes, 2nd place gives 5 and 3rd place gives 1. If 1st place is far ahead or even just 100 points ahead but they've won engagements with both other teams before, the 2nd and 3rd place teams will very likely just turn on each other to claw out 2nd place rather than fight the team that beat them before.

This is very much a skill/experience issue, but it's also very likely to happen. After all, many wouldn't want to risk attacking the 1st place team while in 2nd place and trust that the 3rd place team will not backstab them to take the +4 tomes.

The difference is thar you're optimistic that people will go for the biggest reward and choose the correct decision, but I'm pessimistic because I've seen so many matches where 3rd place pinches us when we're 2nd place instead of attacking 1st place, which allowed 1st place to win for free.