Frontlines sucks Ultra megathread

[Mawlzy]

are you serious lol wow

nobody could ever die in frontline everything is so tanky you need 5 people to kill 1 person

this is why i like CC and RW more

??? That's precisely why you have the pack following the DRK+ premade. Admittedly it's extremely tedious, but facing a zerg you need enough DR to survive a sub-zerg.

[Marxam]

??? That's precisely why you have the pack following the DRK+ premade. Admittedly it's extremely tedious, but facing a zerg you need enough DR to survive a sub-zerg.

problem is that there is no counter in FL due to how chaotic it is. A group of DRKs and RPR's in a premade can wipe a team. I know cuz I was just in a match where both teams except adders (I assume was permade) was sub 200 at the end. There were just taking turns drawing in, rpr hysteria to cancel guards and then drk spam and wiping two sometimes entire alliances in one sweep. at that point its better just to afk cuz there is no amount of counter to premades especially when they are literally 1200 above everyone else just because of a specific combo. But hey its just for fun right?

[Mawlzy]

problem is that there is no counter in FL due to how chaotic it is. A group of DRKs and RPR's in a premade can wipe a team. I know cuz I was just in a match where both teams except adders (I assume was permade) was sub 200 at the end. There were just taking turns drawing in, rpr hysteria to cancel guards and then drk spam and wiping two sometimes entire alliances in one sweep. at that point its better just to afk cuz there is no amount of counter to premades especially when they are literally 1200 above everyone else just because of a specific combo. But hey its just for fun right?

The two losing teams were sub-200 on Shatter? That must have been a fun experience for absolutely nobody other than the premade.

It's basically become impossible for SE to sell FL as the "fun, casual, chaotic PvP mode" because premades impose their iron will of "serious, sweaty, and highly-organized." Sure the rules allow it currently. That is a design error. And I actually have less respect for these premades chasing rewards and personal stats than I do the players just there for XP and tomes, at least if the latter expend minimal effort. As you note, many respond to the misery by AFKing. And given the mountain they're up against when facing a premade, I'm impressed any bother trying at all.

Combining solo and party queues inevitably combines two diametrically opposed playstyles and expectations. It doesn't work. Split the queues or implement match-making. We need a level playing field.