FATE consequences

[eldritchAvatar]

The fact that there aren’t map-wide consequences for failing or ignoring fates bothers me. We’re approaching level 100, y’all can make it more punishing. If we’re snoozing why aren’t we losing?

Oh a monster is overpopulated and I ignored it? Make the area the fate happened so saturated with mobs that it’s hard to solo (could be a good thing if you’re hunting pelts). No more food all the bugs ate the crops.

Oh no they’re attacking a bridge or something and I ignored it? Gotta go the long way now. Oops gotta evacuate the town, too many enemies. Whoopsie, the necromancer popped off and now it’s everyone’s problem for the next hour you have to kill everything twice.

What I’d love to see is exclusive gathering points locked behind combat fates. Or a crafting section that repairs defensive structures that assist in combat. There’s no reason that DoH or DoL classes have to be separate from DoW experience. This provides end game crafters the chance to play an active role in getting to play with players on the overworld map. It rewards them with consequential benefits and brings random players together via collective responsibility.

[Solakor]

Consequences? Failing? Performance? Gatekeeping? In my game? PFFFFT. Go back to WoW pls with that TOXIC attitude. We like not thinking and playing solo in an MMO here.

[Paradigms]

Gathering nodes locked behind combat? no thanks

[vexis58]

FATEs are fun sometimes, but I don't want to be required to do them when I don't want to, which is what's going to happen if there are consequences for "failing". A.K.A. everyone's moved on from this zone and there's barely anyone around to even do FATEs.

Or hey, I was in this MSQ quest cutscene and was unable to go do that FATE, now everyone who comes to the zone in the next hour is going to be punished for something they never even had the option to help with because they weren't here.

I come to a zone because I wanted to gather something, now I have to sit around a half hour waiting for that specific FATE to respawn so I can help fight it, because whoever was here before didn't do it for whatever reason?

Game features where you have to do something to avoid punishment aren't typically very successful (remember the reframing of "fatigue" from playing too much at once into bonus "rested EXP" for being offline more, people like the new way much more even if it's functionally identical) and especially so if that punishment is very likely to be due to the actions of random other players you likely won't even interact with directly!

[Eastwall]

No, l don't want it. I am going to repeat it again. Guild wars 2 does it on some older maps. If You fail certain fate, "aetheryte" get locked out, Or that area gets filled with poison mist. It is a good thing that gathering is not a separate class in Guild wars 2, So l can spam The pages in my firebrand's book 2 to Tank through poison damage And gather ore Or tree then get out to recharge my pages. It is not fun.

[Astrahime]

Gathering nodes locked behind combat? no thanks

Wdym? Wasn't Old Diadem fun?

[LalafellDown]

Yeah that would be cool to see fate have an effect on the map. I wish each map had a gimmick. Maybe even one where you have to capture zones. Bozja boss fates were the best. They could make a map where defeating a boss gate open up an area of the map to that leads up to a big battle for rare loot. Make the difficulty scale based on how May people are in the boss fight.

[Burmecia]

Gathering nodes locked behind combat? no thanks

Yeah! Gathering nodes belong to being locked behind gathering.

[Yuella]

Reminds me of Besieged in FFXI where you lose the XP buff if you lose Besieged . Maybe make it like if you fail a fate, you can't fly there until you beat it the next time it spawns . or you can't use the Aetherytes in that zone until you beat the FATE (can't teleport there)