These Relics Aren't Relicing

[Xaphire]

Why are you talking about grind when you get tomes up the wazoo literally thrown at you for doing nothing at all, that ain't a grind lmao

It is when you need to get the tomes to complete a relic for every job.

What's wrong with the tomestone weapons?

Nothing - I like them just fine.

[ty_taurus]

Nothing - I like them just fine.

Don't they serve the purpose of being a relic to obtain easily with tomes then? Why have two?

[Xaphire]

Don't they serve the purpose of being a relic to obtain easily with tomes then? Why have two?

Can I ask what the difference is between needing 1500 tomestones per step and needing 18 macguffins from dungeon x, y, or z?

[Kaurhz]

Can I ask what the difference is between needing 1500 tomestones per step and needing 18 macguffins from dungeon x, y, or z?

See, here's where it's interesting because... Whilst you can argue there's no difference, but the presentation, and the wider scope of the relic are what matters the most.

Sure, you might be farming 18 McGuffins from some arbitrary dungeon, but then the subsequent step may have you out in the open world farming FATEs, or it may have you participating in 24-man content, or trials.

Now, you can argue that functionally the tomestone steps present this opportunity, but where they missed the mark is that relics for a lot of people ultimately comes down to doing the best possible activities to complete the relic, this is where they missed the mark because developer intentions don't always map or align with community perception, nor how the community interacts with said content in actuality.

Like, for a lot of people they may also be just doing roulettes alone for the capped tomes anyway - At which point completing the relic is just natural, and aren't really being forced, or placed outside of that activity, which some people liked.

[Nezerius]

Can I ask what the difference is between needing 1500 tomestones per step and needing 18 macguffins from dungeon x, y, or z?

If you perceive that there's no difference between "needing 1500 tomestones", and "needing 18 macguffins", than you should just be fine with the original tomestone weapons, no?
Which leads back to the (still unanswered) question from the person you quoted; why do you need two different kinds of tomestone weapons?

[Nezerius]

It is when you need to get the tomes to complete a relic for every job.

Why do you feel like you need a relic on every job?

Nothing - I like them just fine.

But if you're fine with the tomestone weapons, why do you need a second set of tomestone weapons?