These Relics Aren't Relicing

[Supersnow845]

Well currently with the Bozja relics at this point in time due to the general lack of players actively doing DR normal, I'd really just suggest clipping a good chunk of the HP off the bosses to make the fights noticeably shorter with 1-3 ppl and also making that DPS check phase a bit easier to complete when lacking ppl, while also increasing the amount of timeworn artifacts awarded for finishing it. Honestly I feel like this is all the tuning the process needs as no longer current content.

You can easily solo DRN, you just need to use offensive Essences. They 100% should not nerf anything

[ForsakenRoe]

Back to the topic of the thread (idk what all this DRS and whatnot talk is about), it really feels like, given the theme, the glow, and especially the fact that the glow colour of the final step of each of the Manderville weapons is identical (something that has not happened with any other relic), I cannot help but think they ran out of time designing the models for the final form, and just shipped the models that were intended to be the reward for the new Arcadion raid Savage. Compare, for example, the final forms of the Bozjan relics. PLD's yellow-white, WAR's red-orange, DRK's purple, GNB's blue. The theme is similar, with the 'teardrop' shapes for the glow, but the colour is different. By comparison, the Manderville weapons.

And as an additional point of comparison, how about the Asphodelos weapons? They, like the Manderville relics, share a consistent theme and colour scheme for the glow (white fantasy script, marble/stone looking weapons, any 'missing chunks' due to damage replaced/repaired by the glowing white 'letters')

[RitsukoSonoda]

You can easily solo DRN, you just need to use offensive Essences. They 100% should not nerf anything

For me and anyone else that has good essences and also those passive buffs all capped it's definitely soloable. The fights just feel like they drag on longer than they should. However I don't think someone without the passive buffs and just basic grade essences can pass the DPS check phase of the 4 mini bosses solo.

Everything else about it is just a matter of actually doing mechanics.

[Supersnow845]

For me and anyone else that has good essences and also those passive buffs all capped it's definitely soloable. The fights just feel like they drag on longer than they should. However I don't think someone without the passive buffs and just basic grade essences can pass the DPS check phase of the 4 mini bosses solo.

Then does that really warrant a nerf, if you know what you are doing it’s soloable, if you don’t it’s at worst duoable, it’s not like the game is forcing you to try to find 23 other players

[RitsukoSonoda]

Then does that really warrant a nerf, if you know what you are doing it’s soloable, if you don’t it’s at worst duoable, it’s not like the game is forcing you to try to find 23 other players

It's more of a thought tbh to address 2 things.

1. the ppl complaining about timeworn artifacts

2. potential new ppl trying to progress the content as I believe clearing DR normal is required to even access the 2nd bozja area.

[Supersnow845]

It's more of a thought tbh to address 2 things.

1. the ppl complaining about timeworn artifacts

2. potential new ppl trying to progress the content as I believe clearing DR normal is required to even access the 2nd bozja area.

The rest of Bozja is group content as well though, DR doesn’t need to be made (more) soloable because it’s a part of group content and you barely need anyone to actually do it, getting 8 members for a farm run is really easy, getting 2-4 people who know what they are doing to carry you through is even easier

What’s the point of nerfing content that isn’t hard to get people to do

[IDontPetLalas]

You can easily solo DRN, you just need to use offensive Essences. They 100% should not nerf anything

I would say that's more of a poor experience (for me at least) to solo that content unless someone deliberately chooses to do so, in comparison to how it's meant to be run, as long as at least some people are using appropriate essences. Which is why it's a real shame that the current design doesn't allow for it to have been added to a roulette.

[RitsukoSonoda]

I would say that's more of a poor experience (for me at least) to solo that content unless someone deliberately chooses to do so, in comparison to how it's meant to be run, as long as at least some people are using appropriate essences. Which is why it's a real shame that the current design doesn't allow for it to have been added to a roulette.

That I think is part of the issue with DR is it's separated from bozja's exploratory zone instances and as a result it makes the bottleneck in the relic assembly line process if you're doing multiple at the same time to have 1 going at each step worse. If it had at the least been added to Duty Finder it would probably be populated more often.

However overall, reducing the HP pool of the bosses doesn't really impact the actual content outside of the noted DPS check phase of 1 battle. It only really reduces the amount of time spent completing it. (Though I am aware of numerical "sweet spots" with the echo buff that easily result in clears faster than having a full instance of ppl)

[Nubrication]

Did you skip the entire 6.0 manderville quest dialogue? LOL. If you play FF at all, you should know there’s usually a high tech civilization that got wiped out a long time ago, so technically yes, it could be a relic just not in the traditional sense. A relic of an “ancient high tech civilization.” But more specifically in this case, an ancient alien race that died off. The final step totally fits that motif. I do agree that the tomestone grind definitely seemed low effort.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Did you skip the entire 6.0 manderville quest dialogue? LOL. If you play FF at all, you should know there’s usually a high tech civilization that got wiped out a long time ago, so technically yes, it could be a relic just not in the traditional sense. A relic of an “ancient high tech civilization.” But more specifically in this case, an ancient alien race that died off. The final step totally fits that motif. I do agree that the tomestone grind definitely seemed low effort.

Nah, the DT relic is going to end up being an actual PSO2 collab where Gerolt meets someone from ARKs and gets to try his hands at forging Photon weaponry... which at the end of said questline will award a special glamour weapon... the Photon frypan to complement the kettle we got back in ARR lol