These Relics Aren't Relicing

[Denji]

Yeah, no. These endwalker relics just aren't it. Being a player who's played this game for almost 2 years and tried almost every relic grind, I must say the EW one has been the worst so far. Not only because of how lazy it feels but also because the final stage isn't satisfying to me at all. Firstly, where are the matte/alternative versions? ARR, SB, & SHB all had matte versions. HW had an alternative color version. What went wrong with EW? The 6.45 versions were so damn good in my opinion, and then we went onto the "Beep Boop Omega-Styled Extreme Vibed" final stage relic. I don't get what's the obsession of technological weapons as Relics. They're called 'Relics' for a reason. Grindy, Stages that aren't the same grind all the damn time and pretty unique ones. This just gives omega but at-home vibes. Honestly, I expected much more 'Fantasy' vibes, like the other damn relics. I can see why it's called a Tome Relic as a joke. They better not disappoint for DT, but yet again. This is Square Enix. Gotta listen to all the players and satisfy no one, don't we? Another thing I must question is Why aren't the damn AST cards, SCH & SMN pages, and the MCH box thing never changing. They don't fit the "Technology" vibes at all. I can understand that for a few other weapons but not these. They should've really saved these weapons for the new zone in DT, so that we can have armor that actually looks good with it. Make it make sense.

wdym we cut out the entire endgame content and basically gave you nothing to replace it with other than a boring-ass island sanctuary and weird multi-path dungeons that you have to play 500 times in a row with NPCs you don't care about. how could you not enjoy this?? look! the relics aren't at all interesting! you should love these designs, they're boring just like the rest of the end-game content.

there's a complete lack of mid-range endgame content in this expansion and it shows. there's nothing for casual players to do. normal people don't have raid nights and the designs for most of the equipment this expansion have just been... lame. idk. none of them leap out at me as something i'd like to wear unlike the shb/sb/hw ones.

[Noox-115]

Yeah, no. These endwalker relics just aren't it. Being a player who's played this game for almost 2 years and tried almost every relic grind, I must say the EW one has been the worst so far. Not only because of how lazy it feels but also because the final stage isn't satisfying to me at all. Firstly, where are the matte/alternative versions? ARR, SB, & SHB all had matte versions. HW had an alternative color version. What went wrong with EW? The 6.45 versions were so damn good in my opinion, and then we went onto the "Beep Boop Omega-Styled Extreme Vibed" final stage relic. I don't get what's the obsession of technological weapons as Relics. They're called 'Relics' for a reason. Grindy, Stages that aren't the same grind all the damn time and pretty unique ones. This just gives omega but at-home vibes. Honestly, I expected much more 'Fantasy' vibes, like the other damn relics. I can see why it's called a Tome Relic as a joke. They better not disappoint for DT, but yet again. This is Square Enix. Gotta listen to all the players and satisfy no one, don't we? Another thing I must question is Why aren't the damn AST cards, SCH & SMN pages, and the MCH box thing never changing. They don't fit the "Technology" vibes at all. I can understand that for a few other weapons but not these. They should've really saved these weapons for the new zone in DT, so that we can have armor that actually looks good with it. Make it make sense.

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[Nebelheim]

I would like a ff11 style relic grind for at least 1 expansion where there is so much to do it keeps me busy for the whole expansion on release and not handed to me day one of a patch because I'm sitting on capped tomes for 4 months.

[Rufalus]

Ah yes, the grind where I already have the tomestones when the patch drops and get the weapon for free.

IKR you're just getting them incidentally. There's no deliberate design to even rate here, it's a bonus they tacked-on somewhere rather than content in its own right. I can understand people being happy about getting upgrades for no work, but it's not a superior content design. Real content is always better than no content.

[snipski]

Relic was the highlight of Endwalker and they look better then Ultimate weapons, Diablo 4 season 3 starts today so i wont bother with FFXIV for now.

[Rxvenluvsducks]

Relic was the highlight of Endwalker and they look better then Ultimate weapons, Diablo 4 season 3 starts today so i wont bother with FFXIV for now.

I haven't played the game for what feels like 2 months now thanks to a broken laptop, but I've seen the video posted by desperius FFXIV, seen the Drg relic on my boyfriend's screen and even the other weapons around Gridania. Sure, they look better than the ultimate weapons (aside from a few of them...ahem, Sage Manderville Weapon, cough cough, looks like rolling pins xdd) that's all they are ever going to be referred to as. Not like "Bozja Relic!" Or "Anima Weapon!" Just as "Ultimate-Weapon Ripoff" or "Tome Weapon that requires no real skill to acquire". Doesn't matter if you play the game 24/7 or don't, it still makes the game feel less entertaining and more of "Oh do these few dungeons hundreds of times and do the same mechanics every time to recieve a Relic. I don't even feel like calling it a relic now

[Duskane]

these ain't relics they are trinkets
only legacy they have is that they are ez especially once they turn into poetics

[Supersnow845]

I will at least give they are nicer than the TOP weapons within the same “design” sphere but that’s less because the relics look nice and more because the TOP weapons are the ugliest abominations this game has ever given birth to and I think if I ever cleared TOP (I won’t) I would prefer to be kicked in the shin than get any of the TOP weapons

[Mikey_R]

Something I have been thinking about, what purpose, or, who does the tome weapon actually appeal to now?

In the past, the highest ilevel weapons (Savage, Relic and Tome) appealed to different people and so, they all had a purpose. Savage weapons were for those that cleared Savage, Relic weapons were for those that wanted a strong weapon and didn't mind trading time for it and the tome weapon was the easiest one to get which appealed to the people who didn't want to do either of the other options, or even as an interim weapon whilst getting either of the other 2.

Currently, the Savage weapon is still the same, the tome weapon is still the same, however, the relic has completely changed. You don't need to trade time for the relic as you get it doing things you were already doing, so it just comes automatically. It requires less effort than even the tome weapon. So now, who does the tome weapon appeal to? Well, noone. It is just a weapon you get before you get one of the others. The relic even has the benefit for not requiring any capped tomes, so you can focus on using those tomes for gearing other slots. Not to mention, I don't even think the weapon upgrade mat is outside savage yet (could be wrong), which makes the tome weapon even less appealing for anyone not doing savage.

[Flay_wind]

Currently, the Savage weapon is still the same, the tome weapon is still the same, however, the relic has completely changed. You don't need to trade time for the relic as you get it doing things you were already doing, so it just comes automatically. It requires less effort than even the tome weapon. So now, who does the tome weapon appeal to? Well, noone. It is just a weapon you get before you get one of the others. The relic even has the benefit for not requiring any capped tomes, so you can focus on using those tomes for gearing other slots. Not to mention, I don't even think the weapon upgrade mat is outside savage yet (could be wrong), which makes the tome weapon even less appealing for anyone not doing savage.

The thing is, Tomestone weapons were never appealing. On the new tier release you have to wait 7 weeks before you can exchange the 7 Blades for the special tomestone, and even then you have to sacrifice 1000 (they changed it to 500 recently) capped tomestones to get one. Wwhile the newest EX is right there available from the start, which is basically BiS for those 7 weeks. Then after those 7 weeks you finally get 1 weapon that's better than crafted or EX. Hooray. But you can't agument it so it's a miniscule increase over EX weapon.
Then the X.1 patch is released. The newest EX weapons are actually better than the unaugmented Tome weapon and while new alliance raid is released, which lets you upgrade your gear, SE does not allow to buy weapon augmentation material until way later, which is close to the release of the next patch.
Repeat those steps 2 more times.