These Relics Aren't Relicing

[IDontPetLalas]

You can easily solo DRN, you just need to use offensive Essences. They 100% should not nerf anything

I would say that's more of a poor experience (for me at least) to solo that content unless someone deliberately chooses to do so, in comparison to how it's meant to be run, as long as at least some people are using appropriate essences. Which is why it's a real shame that the current design doesn't allow for it to have been added to a roulette.

[RitsukoSonoda]

I would say that's more of a poor experience (for me at least) to solo that content unless someone deliberately chooses to do so, in comparison to how it's meant to be run, as long as at least some people are using appropriate essences. Which is why it's a real shame that the current design doesn't allow for it to have been added to a roulette.

That I think is part of the issue with DR is it's separated from bozja's exploratory zone instances and as a result it makes the bottleneck in the relic assembly line process if you're doing multiple at the same time to have 1 going at each step worse. If it had at the least been added to Duty Finder it would probably be populated more often.

However overall, reducing the HP pool of the bosses doesn't really impact the actual content outside of the noted DPS check phase of 1 battle. It only really reduces the amount of time spent completing it. (Though I am aware of numerical "sweet spots" with the echo buff that easily result in clears faster than having a full instance of ppl)

[ForsakenRoe]

Back to the topic of the thread (idk what all this DRS and whatnot talk is about), it really feels like, given the theme, the glow, and especially the fact that the glow colour of the final step of each of the Manderville weapons is identical (something that has not happened with any other relic), I cannot help but think they ran out of time designing the models for the final form, and just shipped the models that were intended to be the reward for the new Arcadion raid Savage. Compare, for example, the final forms of the Bozjan relics. PLD's yellow-white, WAR's red-orange, DRK's purple, GNB's blue. The theme is similar, with the 'teardrop' shapes for the glow, but the colour is different. By comparison, the Manderville weapons.

And as an additional point of comparison, how about the Asphodelos weapons? They, like the Manderville relics, share a consistent theme and colour scheme for the glow (white fantasy script, marble/stone looking weapons, any 'missing chunks' due to damage replaced/repaired by the glowing white 'letters')

[Nubrication]

Did you skip the entire 6.0 manderville quest dialogue? LOL. If you play FF at all, you should know there’s usually a high tech civilization that got wiped out a long time ago, so technically yes, it could be a relic just not in the traditional sense. A relic of an “ancient high tech civilization.” But more specifically in this case, an ancient alien race that died off. The final step totally fits that motif. I do agree that the tomestone grind definitely seemed low effort.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Did you skip the entire 6.0 manderville quest dialogue? LOL. If you play FF at all, you should know there’s usually a high tech civilization that got wiped out a long time ago, so technically yes, it could be a relic just not in the traditional sense. A relic of an “ancient high tech civilization.” But more specifically in this case, an ancient alien race that died off. The final step totally fits that motif. I do agree that the tomestone grind definitely seemed low effort.

Nah, the DT relic is going to end up being an actual PSO2 collab where Gerolt meets someone from ARKs and gets to try his hands at forging Photon weaponry... which at the end of said questline will award a special glamour weapon... the Photon frypan to complement the kettle we got back in ARR lol

[Erinellza]

I got the relic for my RDM main and it's my 1st. I like how accessible it is because I hate long grinds and fancy shiny weapons so I never bothered to get the relics from the other expansions. The overly fancy design is the reason why I instantly covered this one up with the Lakeland Smallsword. I only wanted the relic because of the high ilvl, it will carry me through half of Dawntrail, lol.

[Mikey_R]

I got the relic for my RDM main and it's my 1st. I like how accessible it is because I hate long grinds and fancy shiny weapons so I never bothered to get the relics from the other expansions. The overly fancy design is the reason why I instantly covered this one up with the Lakeland Smallsword. I only wanted the relic because of the high ilvl, it will carry me through half of Dawntrail, lol.

Which an upgraded tome weapon would also fulfil and yes, the upgrade mat will be obtainable outside savage soon.

[Colt47]

Honestly, my only complaint about the relic that is really valid is that they put too much pressure on the mid tier tomestone with this, since we got to use it for the catchup gear and crafting mats. It would have made more sense to have an inflated poetics price since the poetics aren't used for much of anything, and it would open up people to doing older content that needs participation.

[Turtledeluxe]

We already know an exploratory zone is coming in 7.0 and you can bet it's going to reward relics most likely. Devs may have seen more people get this relic but they also see how dead the game is outside very small and specific time windows and their sagging revenue and will not use short term easy relics again.

That said, I'd like to see a hybrid model of non exploratory steps and exploratory steps with branching paths for completion to protect against it becoming outdated. But the non exploratory finish should be a grind.

[Striker44]

We already know an exploratory zone is coming in 7.0 and you can bet it's going to reward relics most likely. Devs may have seen more people get this relic but they also see how dead the game is outside very small and specific time windows and their sagging revenue and will not use short term easy relics again.

That said, I'd like to see a hybrid model of non exploratory steps and exploratory steps with branching paths for completion to protect against it becoming outdated. But the non exploratory finish should be a grind.

I have good news and bad news for you. The good news is that the dev team, as you mentioned, decided long ago that the next xpac would have an exploratory zone, and their tendency to stick to formulas that work gives us good reason to believe the relics will be involved with it in some way. The dev team recognizes the wide variety of players, and has a history of making content that appeals to different sub-groups each time around.

The bad news is if you're pinning your hopes on mystical scenarios that have no connection to reality, like "sagging revenues" and "dead games." The game is packed with people doing a ton of different things - heck on Aether hunt trains have even started going back to announcing server-side only instead of DC-wide at times because there's too many people. I also enjoy queuing for specific dungeons that don't get much play while doing my WT activities, and queues for even the odd ones have been going quickly all of EW. I understand it can be frustrating when you see a dev team make decision you personally don't like, and desperately want the game to "fail" as a way to say "I told you so," but the reality for FFXIV just isn't that. EW has the highest playerbase of any expansion, topping ShB at every point along the way, and FFXIV is one of their most reliable prime revenue generators (don't confuse SE's overall finances with FFXIV specifically).