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    Rayne6665's Avatar
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    Rayne Wolfhart
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    Leviathan
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    Ninja Lv 100

    materias for Viper question

    Im really looking forward to the dual wielding melee dps making it my alt and all i can say is im very excited! I get that assassins creed vibe which i love My question is what materias they mainly focused on and for secondary option? (DET, CRIT, DH, SKS) Im already hunting down scouting gear sets and aiming accessories (regret discarding it away T___T) so i can be ready and prepared when DT launches. Thanks!
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    Flana's Avatar
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    Kana Kharanku
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Nobody knows what Viper will look like, but if you just want stuff for leveling it really doesn't matter. You could go full skill speed and all of the gear will be replaced before you're halfway to max level in Dawntrail. If you really want to pre-meld your gear just max crit wherever possible and det or dhit where crit is already capped.
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    Arilaya Syldove
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    There is about an 80% chance that Viper will want 0 skillspeed. A ~19% chance that it will want an amount of skill speed to meet some specific GCD breakpoint, and a 1% chance that it will want an undefined amount of skill speed (E.G. Black Mage and spell speed.)

    When in doubt, just build for 0 speed, and the standard crit>dhit>det>>>>>sks.
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    Maric Ward
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    Are there even any dd, who are not focusing only in crit and than DH, aside of blm (who can focus into spell speed to)?
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    Arilaya Syldove
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keichi View Post
    Are there even any dd, who are not focusing only in crit and than DH, aside of blm (who can focus into spell speed to)?
    I've heard rumors that the parsing community does crit/det/dhit and just hopes for a lucky dhit run. And there are niche builds for some content, such as Summoner in ucob/uwu, which runs spell speed as its primary stat. But they're few and far between to my knowledge.
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    Phantom
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Like 90% of situation: Crit->DHit->Skillspeed or Determination
    Unless they revamp stats and materias so crit and Dhit aren't the no brainers best choice (which tbh, they did do that back then for the Strength materia being removed since every tanks just slotted that)
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    Rayne Wolfhart
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    Thanks all for yall inputs
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    Like 90% of situation: Crit->DHit->Skillspeed or Determination
    Unless they revamp stats and materias so crit and Dhit aren't the no brainers best choice (which tbh, they did do that back then for the Strength materia being removed since every tanks just slotted that)
    This really. Unless they recalculate how stats work, Crit and DHit are always going to be the go to, which is a shame.
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    This really. Unless they recalculate how stats work, Crit and DHit are always going to be the go to, which is a shame.
    We really ended up in the very situation they tried to get away from. It must be pretty frustrating for the devs as well.
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    Angra Mainyu
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Isn't SAM crit > det > DH?
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