The Hunt - S ranks pull

[EponaTBHSMH]

The Veil OP mentions is attempted by hunt tracking websites like Faloop, but it is also at the same time negated by the use of 3rd party tools

Almost impossible to truly achieve spawner veil now

[Payadopa]

There's an unwritten rule that you gather when an S rank is spawned and let the spawner pull.

There isn't and it's not my problem. I'm not obligated to follow fantasy rules someone made up in their head.

[Jojoya]

The Veil OP mentions is attempted by hunt tracking websites like Faloop, but it is also at the same time negated by the use of 3rd party tools

Almost impossible to truly achieve spawner veil now

Spawners don't own what they spawn. So sorry that Faloop can't get that in their collective head. It would cut down on a lot of the drama.

[EponaTBHSMH]

Spawners don't own what they spawn. So sorry that Faloop can't get that in their collective head. It would cut down on a lot of the drama.

Honestly aside from threads like these, the only "drama" I see is people getting mad in shout chat when someone pulls early. As long as SE will consider open world stuff free for all, wasting time arguing about it or trying to find solutions is useless or at best band aid, Faloop or not.

if you buff their HP you risk creating another issue of instance getting capped, and people complaining about not being able to get into the instance while the S rank is dying, there's no real solution to all this

[Payadopa]

Honestly aside from threads like these, the only "drama" I see is people getting mad in shout chat when someone pulls early. As long as SE will consider open world stuff free for all, wasting time arguing about it or trying to find solutions is useless or at best band aid, Faloop or not.

Not only that but "early pulling" doesn't exist. Some people need to get that into their brain.

[Tygari]

Not only that but "early pulling" doesn't exist. Some people need to get that into their brain.

Early pulling does exist when it steals from the spawners. Get that through your head.

[EponaTBHSMH]

Not only that but "early pulling" doesn't exist. Some people need to get that into their brain.

I get what you're saying

the thing is the concept of early pulling is something that's been created by the community entirely, mainly out of fear of missing out and people wanting a chance at nuts, tomes and achievements, which is the reason why these threads pop-up and people get mad in-game

Personally while I think of it as an inconvenience and would love for people to be nice since we're all after the same things in the end, I've come to terms that it's part of the ride, especially now that I know SE stance on it, I believe people shouldn't be entitled to getting hunts, whether you be a spawner, whether the hunt is in your world and people are coming from other datacenter.

[Jojoya]

Early pulling does exist when it steals from the spawners. Get that through your head.

No, it doesn't.

SPAWNERS DO NOT OWN WHAT THEY SPAWN.

Repeat that over and over until it sticks in your head.

Then repeat THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN EARLY PULL IN KILL-ON-SIGHT CONTENT until that sticks in your head as well.

I spawn and conduct to help the greater community. I encourage reasonable patience and cooperation to give other players a reasonable chance to participate. If someone wants to pull a S rank while everyone else is still waiting to give others time to arrive, I don't yell at the person who pulled. Instead I encourage everyone else to be patient and watch the puller solo the S rank for a bit.

"Early pulls" wouldn't be a problem in most cases if most of the hunt community wasn't a slave to FOMO and copied the "early puller". As long as you get a hit in before it dies, you get credit for the kill.

I also respect that SE designed the Hunt to be a free for all, first come first served. If others prefer to hunt differently, I respect that. If I'm out scouting for a train and run into players already killing one of the hunt marks, I'll let them know I'm scouting the train, about when I expect it to start, invite them to join the train and wish them luck with their kill. Once I get the rest scouted, I circle back to where the mark was to see if they killed it or not.

You know what? Most of the time it's still there when I go back and those players join the train instead. It's there because I had respect for their right to engage in the content as they wish instead of giving them grief and yelling "YOU CAN'T KILL THAT YOU HAVE TO SAVE IT FOR THE TRAIN". It was still there because despite what some treat as a terrible crime, I invited them to join the greater community and still wished them luck in killing it. I made them feel welcome instead of making them feel like pariahs.

Get it through your head that your rage and hate for others that hunt within the rules of the game even though they aren't hunting the way you want them to is the worst possible thing for the greater community. That is what creates most of those "early pullers" you rage about - players who had simply been playing the game and other players started harassing them for it. Why would anyone in their right mind want to join a player community that treats other players that way?

[alfarini]

There's an unwritten rule that you gather when an S rank is spawned and let the spawner pull.

Unfortunately an unwritten rule is only a courtesy and not an actual "rule". It's not against the tos to pull at any time or allow specific people to pull it. It's open world and anyone is allowed to pull when they want. Just because there's link shells and discords on NA servers for trains and S ranks call outs does not mean it's a game rule, it's just a community rule. I hunt A ranks in ARR and HW solo when I see em. I could call it out and then wait but its faster if I just kill it and get my reward and move on.

[Tygari]

No, it doesn't.

SPAWNERS DO NOT OWN WHAT THEY SPAWN.

Repeat that over and over until it sticks in your head.

Then repeat THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN EARLY PULL IN KILL-ON-SIGHT CONTENT until that sticks in your head as well.

How about you repeat "I won't steal from spawners". Over and over. Something needs to change.