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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    I've been to Florence, as my brother lived in Cincinnati for awhile. "Northern Kentucky" does sound less southern overall but it's still not the "general" accent. I also travel through eastern Kentucky as I have family in North Carolina as well.

    Let me put it to you this way. I'll go work for the JP voices for this game and use my White Kentuckian accent to say Japanese lines. And you better say I'm "doing Japanese proud" when I do.
    This is a poor analogy because you don't speak Japanese.

    For this analogy to work, Wuk Lamat would have to be speaking Spanish.

    Besides, this already happened. Gosetsu's VA is an English man who put on a vaguely-Japanese accent, but nobody grabbed their pitchforks over that.

    I wonder why... <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Embran View Post
    This is a poor analogy because you don't speak Japanese.

    For this analogy to work, Wuk Lamat would have to be speaking Spanish.

    Besides, this already happened. Gosetsu's VA is an English man who put on a vaguely-Japanese accent, but nobody grabbed their pitchforks over that.

    I wonder why... <3

    Hien too. His accent is a bit weird, especially the way he pronounces some of the names. it's always taken me out of it when he pronounces Yugiri's name. Like, he puts too much emphasis on the Yuu part, dragging it too long. It doesn't sound natural. No rage threads tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Hien too. His accent is a bit weird, especially the way he pronounces some of the names. it's always taken me out of it when he pronounces Yugiri's name. Like, he puts too much emphasis on the Yuu part, dragging it too long. It doesn't sound natural. No rage threads tho.
    Hien's VA is Japanese, but raised in the UK, which really just reduces this "argument" even further, since it mirror's Wuk Lamat's VA's position exactly. Latina, raised in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Embran View Post
    This is a poor analogy because you don't speak Japanese.

    For this analogy to work, Wuk Lamat would have to be speaking Spanish.

    Besides, this already happened. Gosetsu's VA is an English man who put on a vaguely-Japanese accent, but nobody grabbed their pitchforks over that.

    I wonder why... <3
    My dude, I dated a Korean for 7 years who spoke four languages, including Japanese. Who are you to say I don't speak Japanese? And that's not even the point. The point is that there unjust and immoral double standards being applied here. And even further to the point, it's not even just her VA is bad, it's her entire character, who and what she represents. Her personality, how out of place she looks (not even culturewise just graphically wise), her face doesn't look anything like any other race in FFXIV, much less male Hrothgars. She looks very similar to all that creepy AI art, completely out of place with the rest of the game.

    Gosetsu's VA did a great job. Wuk Lamat did not. Why is that hard to understand? Why is it even contentious or controversial to have that opinion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    My dude, I dated a Korean for 7 years who spoke four languages, including Japanese. Who are you to say I don't speak Japanese? And that's not even the point. The point is that there unjust and immoral double standards being applied here. And even further to the point, it's not even just her VA is bad, it's her entire character, who and what she represents. Her personality, how out of place she looks (not even culturewise just graphically wise), her face doesn't look anything like any other race in FFXIV, much less male Hrothgars. She looks very similar to all that creepy AI art, completely out of place with the rest of the game.

    Gosetsu's VA did a great job. Wuk Lamat did not. Why is that hard to understand? Why is it even contentious or controversial to have that opinion?
    You keep pulling weird obscure shit from your past every time someone points out the flaws in your logic like "my neighbor was X race, I can comment about racial issues that don't apply to me all I want" lol

    I'm glad you dated a Korean woman and I have no doubt that makes you the arbiter of Korean culture and representation in your mind, Mr. Kentucky.
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    Oh cool, so what's going on here is we're also implying she doesn't count as a Kentuckian then, cool, thanks for making that clear so that I know it's really not worth engaging with you further
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    I'm also from Kentucky, and I have issues with Wuk Lamat's voice due to my own personal issues as I've lined out in another thread.

    Our state isn't a monolith. We're small, but what one person experiences in Louisville isn't going to be a blanket experience for everybody else in the state. Where I'm from, there's a huge Latino presence, and a surprising amount of a lot of other cultures. I hear an insane amount of different accents living here, more than I've heard in other states to be honest.

    The point I think others are trying to make is that trying to pin down Sena's awkward accent on "she's from Kentucky" is ridiculous. The accent is, in my opinion, the fault of the voice director trying to push the VA too far or just giving bad direction in general.
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    I enjoy her, her personality and liked the VA performance well enough as it falls perfectly in-line with the standard XIV has.

    But, at the same time, criticism that's written like some kid throwing a tantrum isn't particularly fruitful and informs me far more about where the critiques are coming from, which is nowhere worthwhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaray View Post
    I enjoy her, her personality and liked the VA performance well enough as it falls perfectly in-line with the standard XIV has.

    But, at the same time, criticism that's written like some kid throwing a tantrum isn't particularly fruitful and informs me far more about where the critiques are coming from, which is nowhere worthwhile.
    You've nailed the issue here exactly.

    A lot of the "criticism" is "THE GAME IS DEAD, THIS IS THE WORST CHARACTER EVER, THE VA SHOULD BE ASHAMED, YOSHI P HAS FORSAKEN US" and it's just absurd to feel THIS strongly about a character who is in a handful of cutscenes and that we've known for an hour AT MOST.

    AT WORST, people who are upset with Wuk Lamat's performance should be skeptical.

    Any emotion beyond that isn't only absurd, it's unhealthy and it speaks towards a problematic obsession with the game.

    Fair shout to those who are criticizing like adults that are capable of rational thought. They don't seem to be on this forum, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Embran View Post
    Fair shout to those who are criticizing like adults that are capable of rational thought. They don't seem to be on this forum, though.
    I believe some people have raised decent complaints, personally. There are some people who are noting the overall lower quality of the voice acting in the entire patch which I think is valid and should be pointed out so that we can hopefully see some improvement in the new expansion. But comments like this are definitely in the minority and are very quickly drowned out by extremely hateful and misplaced comments which is a shame.

    I don't think anybody should be above criticism. It's a good thing and it helps us grow as people, especially people in creative fields. But it is really hard to make said criticism here when the post directly beneath you is some of the most vile nonsense you've ever heard lol. There could be an actual, meaningful conversation happening here and it's disappointing to see that's not the case.
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