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  1. #81
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    "everything about this character is the epitome of the wrong direction this game has been taking."

    I'd even say it's the paragon of global, universal, intergalactic decay !!!! Kill this character, because they embodies all the corruption of the New World Order!

    (More exaggeration, please).
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    She's of Puerto Rican descent. Just because she's a Kentucky native doesn't mean her parents are. They use the "white woman from Kentucky as a way to demean her and say she's not fit for her role.

    Her profile lists Spanish as a language she speaks in a limited working fashion. Maybe she didn't use it often, who knows. It doesn't mean she's faking it.

    And yeah, I'm terrible at transcribing my thoughts into words, it's been a longtime problem of mine.
    Yeah, we're definitely saying different parts of the same thing. She's from Kentucky (and doing the state proud imo) but she's a Latina Kentuckian, which there are a good number of actually. But also like she does to me sound like a Kentuckian, bc a Kentuckian can sound like just about anything
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    Last edited by Raikaiko; 01-19-2024 at 09:02 AM. Reason: autocorrect changed saying to dating

  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortecael View Post
    Bro, you guys are literally talking about how diverse a white guy born and raised in the middle of the USA who currently lives in California is and how that may imply he's "diverse" whatever and why it's not some -ist or -ism or some such for him to make inconsistent fake accents in a $40 video game with a subscription. What's wrong with y'all ? The acting sucks, his acting is the worst offender but the whole EN dub sucks overall, it always sucked. Start sending emails to SE to either have a proper discussion with the current cast and fix it or recast every role.
    The VA is a woman. You shouldn't refer to them as "he".

    Having lived in the Los Angeles metro area my entire life, I see people slip in and out of different accents all the time because the region is so ethnically diverse. It can be difficult not to fall into a similar cadence as your neighbors.

    We've heard maybe 7 minutes of voiced dialogue so far. Personally I'm fine with the VA's work. A little rough but to be expected when both the VA and the character are new.

    2.0 Yda was far, far worse.

    Chill out. It's just a game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    "everything about this character is the epitome of the wrong direction this game has been taking."

    I'd even say it's the paragon of global, universal, intergalactic decay !!!! Kill this character, because they embodies all the corruption of the New World Order!

    (More exaggeration, please).
    And yet they'll continue to pay for the game even though the direction is "wrong".

    Does that mean they'll quit if the game ever gets things "right"?
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The VA is a woman. You shouldn't refer to them as "he".
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  5. #85
    Player Mithron's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Someone has forgotten 2.0 Yda. Now she was terrifying.
    I quite liked 2.0 Yda. She had a great dynamic with Papalymo. Her VA was jarring to me at first, but it wasn't bad or straight offensive like Wuk Lamat is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    White American. Sounds like someone who doesn't know what white people from Kentucky sound like. Hint: it's not this.
    I am a White Kentuckian. Anyone who thinks she sounds like a White Kentuckian is very delusional.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raikaiko View Post
    Listen I pushed back against another KY generalization else where, I'll do it here. We actually have a fairly diverse state that straddles several geocultural bounds, people from Kentucky don't sound any one particular way. Appalachia and Pennyroyal are about as different as they are physically distant, and people from all over make their homes here. The horse farms draw a lot of Hispanic and Latin American immigration in particular.

    Like is this the worst case of the generalizing absolutely not, but I don't think there's anything helpful about speaking in these absolutes. There's no one way a Kentuckian sounds, just like there's no one way a woman can sound
    The general White Kentuckian sounds like a southern White American with "ya'll" and "yard bird" speech. Source: I am Kentuckian. I travel all up and down I-65, from Louisville to Nashville and everything inbetween. I've even been to South Bend Indiana. I went to University of Louisville, having to commute to park my car at Papa John's Stadium, then take the bus to get to campus and walk to class, all in -10F and -30F wind chills.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raikaiko View Post
    Yeah, we're definitely saying different parts of the same thing. She's from Kentucky (and doing the state proud imo) but she's a Latina Kentuckian, which there are a good number of actually. But also like she does to me sound like a Kentuckian, bc a Kentuckian can sound like just about anything
    She is not doing Kentucky proud. There is also not a "good number" of latina Kentuckians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorSpoils View Post
    The use of "them" in that sentence isn't being used as a pronoun. Isn't the English language fun?
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    The general White Kentuckian sounds like a southern White American with "ya'll" and "yard bird" speech. Source: I am Kentuckian. I travel all up and down I-65, from Louisville to Nashville and everything inbetween. I've even been to South Bend Indiana. I went to University of Louisville, having to commute to park my car at Papa John's Stadium, then take the bus to get to campus and walk to class, all in -10F and -30F wind chills.


    She is not doing Kentucky proud. There is also not a "good number" of latina Kentuckians.
    Pikeville and Paducah are about as far apart as Glasgow and London, and there's decidedly a difference in accent and speech pattern between them, and North of Florence is practically Cincinnati. It is absolutely disingenuous to say there's one singular accent for the state. The limestone doesn't give us all one singular one. I hear several on the regular here in CKY.

    Also huh, guess I must have been imagining the significant Latino presence in my city's Halloween parade, and our whole annual Festival Latino
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  8. #88
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    I've been to Florence, as my brother lived in Cincinnati for awhile. "Northern Kentucky" does sound less southern overall but it's still not the "general" accent. I also travel through eastern Kentucky as I have family in North Carolina as well.

    Let me put it to you this way. I'll go work for the JP voices for this game and use my White Kentuckian accent to say Japanese lines. And you better say I'm "doing Japanese proud" when I do.
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  9. #89
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    Oh cool, so what's going on here is we're also implying she doesn't count as a Kentuckian then, cool, thanks for making that clear so that I know it's really not worth engaging with you further
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    I've been to Florence, as my brother lived in Cincinnati for awhile. "Northern Kentucky" does sound less southern overall but it's still not the "general" accent. I also travel through eastern Kentucky as I have family in North Carolina as well.

    Let me put it to you this way. I'll go work for the JP voices for this game and use my White Kentuckian accent to say Japanese lines. And you better say I'm "doing Japanese proud" when I do.
    This is a poor analogy because you don't speak Japanese.

    For this analogy to work, Wuk Lamat would have to be speaking Spanish.

    Besides, this already happened. Gosetsu's VA is an English man who put on a vaguely-Japanese accent, but nobody grabbed their pitchforks over that.

    I wonder why... <3
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    Last edited by Embran; 01-19-2024 at 10:22 AM.

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